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RAW question
Will Baccich, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 11:20 PM on 03.03.04 |
| ->> I am new to using my 10D. If I am going to use RAW because I like the control - and use the "convert and save in file" option in the file viewer utility, is there any reason to record the large JPEG? Shouldn't I just record the small JPEG to save CF memory? Thanks... |
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Pablo Galvez, Photographer
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Calgary | AB | CANADA | Posted: 11:25 PM on 03.03.04 |
->> I've been using the "Raw plus small JPG" to save room on the card. The jpg is like a small proof - it doesn't need to be Large-Fine.
On the other hand, I did have that scare a few weeks ago when I accidentally rotated my RAW images with a third party software and it blanked out the RAW information so I had to rely on the jpg for output. It's up to you - just don't make the mistake I did. |
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Matt Strasen, Photographer
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McKinney | TX | USA | Posted: 12:13 AM on 03.04.04 |
->> Will,
I have wondered the same question, as I shoot RAW+ for nighttime soccer, etc. I have actually used the JPEG version a few times when pressed, and I have used the medium setting, splitting the difference and allowing the use of 5-10 more pics on each card. If I had more room, I would be shooting fine, but I am tapped out having to buy everything for myself.
My suggestion to you would be the same thing, shooting medium, that is, if space is an issure, just in case you have to use the JPEG. |
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Will Baccich, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 8:12 AM on 03.04.04 |
->> Thanks...two follow-up questions:
1) so the quality of the RAW file is independent of the quality of the JPEG?
2) why have you needed to use he JPEG? |
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Will Baccich, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 8:15 AM on 03.04.04 |
->> One more...
None of this info is in Canon's manual. What's a good source? (Besides, obviously, Sportsshooter.com) |
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Nick Doan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Scottsdale | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:02 AM on 03.04.04 |
->> Will,
I shoot RAW about 90% of the time now. On the 10D, I have it set to RAW+small JPEG just to save CF space. And, I have never used that JPEG for anything.
I think the biggest downfall is using Canon's software to do your conversions/downloads. I use Photo Mechanic to ingest (download) my disks, where I can change names or caption pretty quickly if I need to. Otherwise, I open everything else in Photoshop CS and use the built-in RAW converter.
If you do not have PS CS or Adobe Camera RAW, I would suggest getting another third-party software like BreezeBrowser of Capture1 and use its RAW converter. They all seem to give you more control (and work faster) than Canon's software.
If you have some version of Photoshop, than the Photoshop Book (or Photoshop CS) for Digital Photographers has a decent section on RAW conversion if I remember correctly. |
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Pablo Galvez, Photographer
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Calgary | AB | CANADA | Posted: 9:21 PM on 03.04.04 |
->> Look at www.c1dslr.com for info on Capture One and some workflow info on RAW files.
To answer your questions - 1. RAW + jpg will produce a jpg that reflects the RAW file if you don't change anything on the RAW file before converting it. The beauty of the RAW file, of course, is that you can change so much of it from exposure to colour temperature after the fact. The RAW file gives you much more freedom than the jpg.
2. The odd time, I will open the jpg (if it is Large-Fine) and the shot looks as good as I need it so I will just use it. Other times it may be a workflow issue - where it is faster to just open the jpg, tweak the levels and send it. Working on the jpg of a 10D camera is not that fast because you have to "extract" the jpg from the RAW file (which makes it almost enough of a pain in the butt to just use RAW and no jpg).
Hope that helps a bit.
-Pablo |
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Will Baccich, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 10:43 PM on 03.04.04 |
->> Many thanks. It't all so helpful.
Pablo, I love the skating images...Will |
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John H. Reid III, Photographer
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University Heights | OH | USA | Posted: 11:04 PM on 03.04.04 |
->> Will,
I've been told by a Canon rep that you can access the jpegs independently from the raw files, so editors like it because they can rip through the jpegs as proofs with Photo Mechanic or whatever, then only open the raw files they need, since the file names only differ in the extension (.jpeg or .tif on my 1D.) Opening the raw files with the Canon software is a slow process. |
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