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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 12:20 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> Maybe I'm being overly sensitive but after having a half dozen or so people email me about how to break into my particular area (movie stills)and me taking the time to write back with some observations & advise, doesn't it seem right that those same people would at least acknowledge my response? .......Or maybe not.
Chris |
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George Olivar, Photographer
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New Brunswick | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:42 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> I agree with you, Chris. Miracle looks like it's going to be quite a success. Congrats on your great work. I might actually ask you some questions about that field sometime soon. I've always wondered about still photography on movie sets.
A friend of mine had asked me if I would be interested in doing some work on a couple of indie films she was involved with in NYC last year. I couldn't do it at the time, but I'd definitely like to learn more about it.
-George |
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Jon Blacker, Photographer
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Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 1:02 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> I too agree with you Chris. I've had people email me through my member page asking for things as simple as camera settings for some of the images that I had posted on my page at the time, or who to contact/how to get in to shoot sporting events I've covered. Like you, I replied, never to hear from them again.
It's the ones who can't be bothered to say 'Thanks' that give you pause for thought the next time one of those emails comes along: It makes you wonder, "Why should I bother?"
Of course we have to bother because we all have something to learn from someone about something, and most of us _do_ take the time to acknowledge the help.
Either that, or maybe it's simply because I've actually been to Okotoks, and I have some innate sympathy for you ;-) |
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Jan Langsner, Photographer
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Lloyd | AB | Canada | Posted: 4:21 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> I don't know what I'm doing different, because I more often than not get a thank you from people that I have answered. But the few times that I have not got a response it does kinda tic me off, so I do know what you mean Chris.
By the way, I spent a couple of nights in Okotoks back in '93 and as far as small towns go, it's not bad. |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 9:35 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> While I agree with you about the disappointment, I also believe you must continue to help the next person the same as the first one.
Maybe from my posts about giving out awards for message board posts people think we should get credit for our help. Well I think rewards would be a formal thanks from our colleagues. But this shouldn’t be what motivates us.
Back to your point, photographers need to do a better job as a group being courteous and less inwardly focused. In the day and age when manners are almost no longer practiced, we should surely shine if we practiced them.
We are not each other’s competition. We are each other’s support. Abuse this relationship and people will be less likely to go out of their way to help you in the future.
To do our jobs we must build relationships. Good photographs cannot be made without access and your fellow photographers can help you gain access to venues or they can let the SID’s know not to let you in a venue.
Keep returning the emails with your helpful comments. Your reputation as one who gives will be rewarded as your career moves forward. |
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Dick Van Nostrand, Photographer
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Bay City | MI | USA | Posted: 9:54 AM on 02.08.04 |
| ->> It's like thanking the subjects of your photos after the assignment. Only takes a second and may open some closed doors sometime in the future. I know as it's happened to me. |
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John Riddell, Photographer
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Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:52 AM on 02.08.04 |
->> Hey Jon,
I'm a guy that e mailed you about access at Ricoh Coliseum, if I didn't reply back with a 'Thanks', my bad. If I did reply, thanks again.
I agree with you Chris, I was one of those guys that thought about e mailing you but I figured when this whole site saw your amazing images, a lot would be contacting you. You are in a unique position that us photographers are always looking for. Good on ya!
Now, I'm in Toronto: Hollywood North, any tips? Just kidding.
Great work.
John
www.johnriddell.com |
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Steve Boyle, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 02.08.04 |
->> Chris,
I was likely the first guy to inquire about your profession. I don't think I emailed you back, but I want to thank you for your response. I was more curious and intrigued about what you did than serious about persuing it. I apologize for not thanking you earlier.
nice spread in SI! |
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Michael King, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 1:20 PM on 02.08.04 |
->> Chris~
I totally hear what you're saying about acknowledging help and saying "thank you"... it is common courtesy and when it is said genuinely it really lets people know what they did was appreciated and taken to heart.
On a personal level:
At the NPPA Short course in Cleveland, I was one of the last three portfolio reviews, and Robert Scheer of the Indy Star critiqued my portfolio at 12:30 in the morning... I don't think he had even eaten dinner yet. And he didn't just look at it and say good/bad... he talked with me about my work and my future with all the zest he had for the profession. He gave me his time and his insight... two things that I know are extremely valuable to pros. I thanked him profusely afterwards... and I still didn't feel like saying thanks was adequate. So Bob, if you're reading this... thanks again (and again... and again...)!
There are so many professionals out there that lend out a helping hand to other shooters and especially students, and they always deserve our thanks.
my 2 cents,
--MK |
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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 3:21 PM on 02.08.04 |
| ->> I'm glad it wasn't just me who felt this way. I will keep on trying to help others when I can. Since I posted this I've had a couple of more requests for info and a couple of thank yous.......Thats all thats needed......simple isn't it? |
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Brian Light, Photographer
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Pennsville | NJ | USA | Posted: 7:39 PM on 02.08.04 |
->> While I have also noticed the same thing here from time to time, I just chalk it up to them being busy at the time or respectful to me for not taking up more of my time than they had already done.
Those sound so much better to me than getting a reply saying my advice was off base and useless to them. ;) |
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Pablo Galvez, Photographer
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Calgary | AB | CANADA | Posted: 9:21 PM on 02.08.04 |
->> Great work, Chris! Nice to see big things come out of a small(ish) town. My wife and I used to own the Fabutan in Okotoks so we were there almost every day for a few years.
Small world. |
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