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Are those Thinkpads?
Robert G. Stevens, Photographer
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David Bergman, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 8:03 AM on 10.25.03 |
->> The SI editors use PC based machines mostly for two pieces of software. The first is MediaGrid, which is used to access the massive database of images. The second is ACDSee, which is a very quick way to view full-screen images for editing. Unfortunately, the Mac version is not up to speed.
I personally use Macs and each photographer can use whichever they prefer. Most are using Mac, but there are a few using PC. |
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Michael Bundy, Photographer
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Katy | TX | USA | Posted: 10:08 AM on 10.25.03 |
->> Forgive me for being obtuse, but why not Thinkpads?
Michael |
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Robert G. Stevens, Photographer
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Halifax | NS | Canada | Posted: 10:45 AM on 10.25.03 |
->> Michael:
I asked to see what was specific to the PC that Sports Illustrated would be using a Thinkpad rather than Macs.
I use a Thinkpad and have also used ACDSee. I am waiting for a version of ACDSee 6 Professional or some designation like that before I buy it. It is supposed to support the EOS 1D raw files.
Robert |
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Zack Uribe, Photographer
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Santa Clara | CA | USA | Posted: 1:00 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> Be carefull about waiting for ACDSee to support specific digital camera files..
Back when 3.0 was the current version, I talked to them and they said that they would be announcing full support for Nikon NEF's within a month...
3 years later..and still nothing..
I love ACDSee, I currently use version 6. |
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Robert G. Stevens, Photographer
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Halifax | NS | Canada | Posted: 1:38 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> Zack:
I think Canon and Nikon are the problem. Nikon is using the new software model. Sell the customer the hardware and then sell him the software to make it work. At least Canon includes the acquire.
Kodak, on the other hand, is doing like IBM used to do it with the main frame OS. They sell the hardware and give away the software to run it. If you go on the Kodak web site, you can registed to download the SDK, software development kit. This is used to put the Kodak functionality into custom in house programs or third party applications like Photo Mechanic.
For ACDSee, I get the impression the majority of their users are using it with point and shoots. I called their tech support guy about the 1D files and they said it was a function of the OS and not their application. I sent a sample file and he figured out that he was wrong and sent the problem up to the next level of support. This level of support suggested there was a new Version 6 Professional coming out in December that would deal with 1D files.
Robert |
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
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Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 1:57 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> ThumbsPlus 6.o works with canon and nikon files.
I think it s pretty similar to ACDSee. Also has a free trial period.
www.cerious.com |
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Jim Burgess, Photographer
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Gainesville | FL | US | Posted: 2:28 PM on 10.25.03 |
| ->> ThumbsPlus is a good product, but it still does not provide usable support for Nikon NEF files. It has been promised since this release entered beta many months ago, but is still not available. A maintenance release containing NEF support is due "real soon". I believe there are also shortcomings in Canon's raw file support. |
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Jock Fistick, Photographer
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Brussels | Belgium | | Posted: 8:09 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> Robert:
>I think Canon and Nikon are the problem. Nikon is using the new software model. Sell the customer >the hardware and then sell him the software to make it work. At least Canon includes the acquire.
I don't follow - Nikon View is free software that comes with the camera and includes a photoshop plug-in so you can open NEF files directly inside photoshop.
Just curious - does Canon supply a photoshop plugin that allows you to open RAW 1D images inside photoshop or do you have to work with the Canon acquire software when working with RAW files?
Yes, Nikon Capture has to be purchased -
I know some studio photographers that like to work with the camera tethered to the computer and for them Capture is essential - but outside of that need (which I don't have) - I see no real reason to use Capture. For my purposes - Nikon View and the NEF plug-in do the trick for me when I need to work in RAW. |
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Robert G. Stevens, Photographer
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Halifax | NS | Canada | Posted: 8:16 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> Jock:
The 1D comes with a Photoshop plugin and a capture program for tethered use. I think there is also a file viewer included. I have only used the Photoshop plugin to work with the 1D raw files.
I thought you need Nikon Capture to manipulate the NEF files. Is the Nikon Photoshop plugin a file format plugin or an acquire plugin? In other words, will it let you manipulate the exposure and color balance on the NEF files in their raw state or does it just open the NEF file? |
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Zack Uribe, Photographer
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Santa Clara | CA | USA | Posted: 8:41 PM on 10.25.03 |
->> Bibble is a third party NEF converter-tethered camera software.
Qimage is another 3rd party app which supports NEF.
Adobe ACR works with NEFS also
I believe CaptureOne also supports NEFS.
So it is not impossible for third parties to work with NEFS. |
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Rick Stewart, Photographer
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Canandaigua | NY | | Posted: 5:17 PM on 10.28.03 |
->> If you're using a PC, give Breezebrowser a try at www.breezesys.com. It can also do RAW conversion for Canon files, and does not nuke the original RAW image as some do.
Rick |
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Wally Nell, Photographer
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SAN DIEGO (La Mesa) | CA | USA | Posted: 5:35 PM on 10.28.03 |
| ->> I use Breezebrowser as well. Pretty good piece of software. |
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Hassel Weems, Photographer
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Locust Grove (Atanta) | GA | USA | Posted: 11:19 PM on 10.28.03 |
->> There is an editor that comes with Nikon View. It will edit and convert NEFs, but with less control than Capture. Less control = no curves, EV in 1/3 stops only, no unsharp mask, no batch processing, auto and preset WB only (capture has direct Kelvin temp and click gray) plus several other things I can't remember tight now.
You need Capture to shoot tethered. |
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