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New MackBook Pro
Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 2:48 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Not today ... but probably sooner than I had planned to .... |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 2:53 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> I am running off a late 2006 MacBook. I think it's time for me to upgrade, lol. |
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Robert Boag, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Harrisonburg | VA | US | Posted: 3:12 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> So question: Do i got for new macbook pro or older imac for video/photo editing? I am just curious power-wise and quality wise what would be the best option |
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Robert Boag, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Harrisonburg | VA | US | Posted: 3:13 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Do I go* sorry. |
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Will Powers, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 3:16 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Rarely a bad idea to get the most recent technology when you're ready to buy. |
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Samuel Lewis, Photographer
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Miami | FL | USA | Posted: 3:36 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Unfortunately, it seems that Apple has dropped the 17" MacBook Pro from its product lineup, and new ones are no longer available through the Apple Store online. |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Also, does anyone know if the new MacBook with retina or the updated MacBook Pros are user upgradeable both ram and HD? Or would we have to take it to the Apple store? |
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Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Assistant
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Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 3:55 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> That Retina display is SICK.
I'll probably have to wait until tax refund season next year, but that's pretty damn tempting. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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John Schreiber, Photographer, Assistant
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Redondo Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 4:30 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Steven... Looking at the photos on Apple's website (http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/design/), it looks like the ram is soldered onto the motherboard. So, not as easily upgradeable.
Also noticed there is no optical drive on the new model... I know CD's are going to eventually be a thing of the past, but I still regularly burn DVDs for clients, watch movies, install software, etc. with my CD drive. Guess I will just keep my old Macbook for those purposes.
Also, no ethernet port? Not that I use one often, but there are those select times when you do need one. I guess we will just have to use adapters now? |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 4:45 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> "Also, no ethernet port?"
During the keynote they mentioned Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet cables ... also one for FW800 ...
If you need to read or write optical disks ... I'm sure there will be very enterprising third parties offering external options like those for the Macbook Air ... especially since they now come with USB3 ...
I'm wondering with the pixel density of the MBP retina display (more than twice of 1080p ... if the 15" won't be more than adequate, especially for location use ... |
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Robert Boag, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Harrisonburg | VA | US | Posted: 4:51 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Apple is offering a "USB Superdrive" for the lack of optical drive.
According to their site: $80
"Compact and convenient, the external Apple USB SuperDrive connects to your MacBook Pro with a single USB cable and fits easily into a travel bag. It lets you install new software and play and burn both CDs and DVDs, including double-layer DVDs." |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 5:23 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Well, I bit the bullet. Just ordered the 2.3GHz Retina with 16GB of ram and 256GB SSD.
Probably going to be a big improvement over my late 2006 MacBook ha ha. |
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
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Phoenix | AZ | United States | Posted: 6:06 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> I'm looking at the 13" MacBook Air. USB3, tiny package, 8gigs of RAM. What's not to love. Now that Thunderbolt peripherals are starting to roll out, even if they are ludicrously expensive at this point, there are some choices in hard drives. |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 6:28 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Looks like the Mac Pro tower received a quiet refresh ... no USB3 or no Thunderbolt love though ... guess the Air and MBP got all the attention ...
http://www.apple.com/macpro/ |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 7:11 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Crap...now I have to decide between Sonnet's Thunderbolt card reader setup or a USB 3.0 CF reader(s). |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 8:22 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> I've got a nice 17inch MBP with 16Gb of RAM, so what does the new MPB really offer me?
Not much.
A bigger screen is better. |
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Victor Biro, Photographer
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Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:25 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Steven,
I would think in terms of USB3, for the simple reason that you may find yourself in a position where you can't use your Mac, but can use another computer.
At least you'd be able to get the images off the CF card and file them.
Just a thought. |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 8:36 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Steven, I'm with Victor ... while Sonnet offers some great solutions ... all the Thunderbolt options are carrying a hefty price tag right now ... as we saw the prices level off with firewire options after it's introduction ... I'd go with USB3 for now and see what happens ... |
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Victor Biro, Photographer
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Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:47 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Besides, for the price of a single Echo ExpressCard Pro Thunderbolt Adapter you could buy 5 or 6 USB 3 CF readers, or if you prefer a better quality, a 2-3 of the Hoodman readers (http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1073) |
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 9:40 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> Advice taken. I will order a few USB 3.0 readers. |
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
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Phoenix | AZ | United States | Posted: 9:53 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> And you can get 4 - 6 good USB3 readers for the cost of one Sonnet reader. That's a lot of redundancy. |
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
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Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 10:20 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> The thing that really hurt the Mac Pro was no new video card. The 5770/5870 is old by any standard. |
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 10:51 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> that retina display is going to hurt my eyes when set for a bit distance. it's already giving me issues now with the 1680X1050 monitor.
the USB 3.0 is welcomed. but that HDMI is just...redundant.... rather have a FW800 or a expresscard34.
another proof of Apple now is just moving towards an expensive consumer brand that doesn't care much about the working pros.
better to stick with the older model, I can put two drives and swap out memory myself.
oh yeah and the 17" |
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Marcus Laxineta, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 11:18 PM on 06.11.12 |
| ->> I thought about this upgrade (my 15 inch MBP is about 2years old) and decided to replace the hard drive with a samsung 830 256gb SSD and upgrade the ram from 4gs to 8. The performance change is incredible. Startup time; photoshop crunching; etc. 3-5fold faster. About 350 dollars vs. 2200-2700. The drive comes with a usb-sata cable that makes it a breeze to migrate. You would have enough leftover for a large external display-- |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
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Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 11:30 PM on 06.11.12 |
->> Apple announced during the keynote that they are producing a Thunderbolt -> Firewire 800 adapter. It doesn't appear to be available to buy yet, however the Thunderbolt -> Gigabit Ethernet adapter they mentioned at the same time is for sale already at $29. I bet the FW800 one will be the same price. Our FW800 card readers look like they'll still be useful for a while.
Of more important note as briefly mentioned above is that it appears you will NOT be able to upgrade the RAM in the new Retina display models:
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20120611_4-MacBookPro-soldered-mem... |
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:17 AM on 06.12.12 |
| ->> Ting: The Mac Pro "update" is another sign that Apple doesn't care too much about the pro market (who saw them through near bankruptcy in the late 90's) anymore. |
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Perrone Ford, Photographer
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Tallahassee | FL | US | Posted: 1:46 AM on 06.12.12 |
->> "but that HDMI is just...redundant.... rather have a FW800 or a expresscard34"
Well, for us pro's that have to edit video, HDMI is a VERY welcome addition. FW800 is slower than the two new options available. Expresscard would be helpful, but it does take up a lot of space and it uses a TON of power. I'd rather use a Thunderbolt adapter than to have Expresscard take up that much space.
The lack of an optical is a killer though. That's something a lot of people use ALL THE TIME. Client hand off being a very big one for me and a lot of people I know. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
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Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 2:01 AM on 06.12.12 |
->> On the not very exciting Mac Pro update:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/an-explanation-of-the-news-from-a.../
"Many Apple observers also wonder if Apple thinks that desktop computers are dead, since not a word was said about the iMac and Mac Pro. An executive did assure me, however, that new models and new designs are under way, probably for release in 2013." |
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 2:36 AM on 06.12.12 |
->> Mr Ford: Would you mind explaining to me how the additional HDMI help in your work flow? Cause the Thunderbolt ports itself is already capable or outputting the HDMI signals along with a adaptor( which is what I'm doing on my 2011 MBP). Since they design the thunderbolt port to be like the ultimate solution for all interfaces, why, put like another video output onto the machine?!
As for FW800, yes it's a tad slow, but I assume plenty of us still daisy chain multiply FW800 externals, which is what the USB interface incapable of doing. I don't want to consistently switch my drives for the limited USB port. (well, there is the thing called USB hubs... but with like 5 drives... that will just manifest into a cable cluster"fudge")
Mr. McNamara: I agree. Hmm, another sign is the Xserve being the first sacrifice of all for the pro market..... |
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Perrone Ford, Photographer
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Tallahassee | FL | US | Posted: 6:26 AM on 06.12.12 |
->> Ting Shen,
When I travel, or work in the field, I like to travel as lightly as possible. I am already carrying 1 or two cases for photography gear, grip gear, remote gear, etc.
My laptop case already has my Laptop, ipad, chargers, card readers, cable managers, etc. I do not want to add an external optical drive, an adapter for thunderbolt to HDMI, an adapter for thunderbolt to Cat5, etc. I just don't have room for all this "stuff". I'd rather my laptop be another inch thicker and have all the stuff built in. A super thin laptop that needs half a dozen external things to make it do what it USED to do is not a good solution to me.
I don't know your work environment, but when I am flying, or at a hotel restaurant, or even in a press workroom, I don't have the space to attach an external drive, an external optical, and external adapter for Cat5, and all manner of other things. I just need my laptop to sit there in a small space and do what I need it to do.
I will have a look at the Thunderbolt to HDMI adapter and see if it's something that can fit my needs for video. |
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Mike Isler, Photographer, Assistant
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New York | NY | US | Posted: 10:14 AM on 06.12.12 |
->> Perrone,
Well, the new MBP (without Retina) does have an internal optical drive, Gig-E, FW800, Thunderbolt, USB3, and new WiFi. Also optional SSDs. Just doesn't have the HDMI port, so again you're at a trade off. Carrying only one adapter, though, as opposed to numerous ones seems like a logical solution if you can live without the Retina display. |
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Perrone Ford, Photographer
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Tallahassee | FL | US | Posted: 10:31 AM on 06.12.12 |
| ->> I just bought a new MBP in March. No retina display, no USB3. But I've got all the other stuff. Looking at the new model, I think I got the better end of the deal. |
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Greg Fiume, Photographer
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odenton | MD | USA | Posted: 2:58 PM on 06.12.12 |
| ->> If you want the 17" I think online is the only option. Called my local Apple store yesterday and they had them and were going to sell them until they were gone. Went in today and they had a meeting this morning and corporate had instructed them to pull them all and send them back. From what they know it was all the stores. They had no idea what apple was going to do with them, but maybe sell them online. If anyone has a contact at apple it might be worth a phone call to see what is up. |
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