| Sign in: |
| Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features. |
|
|
|
|
|| SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board
"Photographer will face discipline"
Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Michael Fischer, Photographer
 |
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 12:56 PM on 07.13.11 |
| ->> Overman is a past President of the NPPA... WOW |
|
Peter Huoppi, Photographer
|
New London | CT | USA | Posted: 2:01 PM on 07.13.11 |
| ->> What is amazing to me is the comments of Olympian readers on that article. A majority of them have no regard for the idea of neutrality and journalistic independence. What does it mean for an independent press if its core values are of no value to its readers? |
|
Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
|
Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 2:29 PM on 07.13.11 |
| ->> “The problem that I’m wrestling with is that I did the right thing as a citizen and I did the wrong thing as a journalist,” Tony told [Reporter Sean] Robinson in a recent interview. |
|
Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 8:06 PM on 07.13.11 |
->> the original news story which prompted the editor's note should also be considered for context:
http://www.theolympian.com/2011/07/10/1719188/the-elusive-face-of-anarchism...
not releasing unpublished work is a long-standing policy in much of the newspaper world. The conflict arises when members of the public, emergency services or police don't understand the arguably necessary separation of a free press from the government. Many will not debate the rights of reporters to protect "sources" but don't see photographic work as having the same protection.
The paper is doing the right thing in principal. the fact that the public does not understand and is in many cases hostile to that position does not make the position any less important.
Tony is a friend of mine. I feel very deeply his pain. I've faced any number of people both within and without the government who've wanted to see my outtakes for a variety of reasons and have managed to stand behind my employer's policy ... but I've never been faced with quite so blatant a criminal act for which I was so clearly the sole witness nor been so intimately involved.
Just like any other debate over whether we are journalists first or humans in other situations, Tony had to go with his gut and deserves support as the deals with the consequences. As his boss said in the column, Tony will move forward from this and continue his exemplary work in his community.
Sean |
|
Matthew Sauk, Photographer
|
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 9:32 PM on 07.13.11 |
->> "Last month, someone painted an anarchy symbol on Tony’s home, painted “Overman snitch” on his truck and slashed its tires. The Olympian’s building was similarly defaced."
Are you kidding me? WTF is wrong with people. |
|
Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 11:48 AM on 07.14.11 |
->> "WTF is wrong with people"
Matthew, sadly, meet the world. |
|
Matthew Ginn, Photographer
|
Mark Peters, Photographer
|
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 2:10 PM on 07.14.11 |
->> "Daniel Wilson told The Olympian he did not want to press charges for the Tuesday night damage to the rental home.".
Perhaps the OWNER might think differently. |
|
G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
|
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 2:42 PM on 07.14.11 |
->> Man that's tough. Tony's a good guy and a class act as a photojournalist. Terrible position he was in, and bummer of a result.
Hang in there, dude. As the saying goes, this too shall pass.
Best wishes from D.
- gerry - |
|
Michael Fischer, Photographer
|
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 6:27 PM on 07.14.11 |
->> I am an in agreement with Mr. Colburn. ( What's up with THAT, Jim?)
Economic stress makes it that much worse.
Tony was in a no win situation. You make your choices. Take a deep breath. Take the punishment and move on. I think the newspaper even recognizes that....
M |
|
Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
|
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 6:48 PM on 07.14.11 |
| ->> This is a total "I have no idea" question, but could the PD or DA subpoena the newspaper for unpublished photo's if they suspected they might have shots of the crime? |
|
Michael Fischer, Photographer
|
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 6:56 PM on 07.14.11 |
| ->> They can, Dennis. Doesn't mean they will get them. Most newspapers will fight it. |
|
Willis Glassgow, Photo Editor, Photographer
|
Florence | SC | USA | Posted: 8:53 AM on 07.15.11 |
| ->> I don' know Tony Overman, but I can say that many of us have gone through similar situations. I did too several years ago. Both the paper and I were threatened with fines and jail time if we didn't hand over negatives to the local authorities. We didn't budge and continued to say no and finally the authorities gave up. We as journalists are not there to judge if something is right or wrong, guilty or not. We are there to gather news and to make that news public, period!...Giving over evidence breaches the trust in the public. It makes our jobs much more difficult to regain that trust in the future and perhaps even indefinitely. I'm sure Tony is a good photographer and probably a great guy. But regardless of what kind of guy he is, he made a huge mistake in judgment and unfortunately he will pay for it, most likely with a suspension. If that is the case, he is lucky. What he did, is a fireable offense. Some may ask, WHY did he do this?.....Maybe he was he too friendly to local law enforcement?....Possibly. No one can really say at this point. All I can say is that I hope he can come back from this setback and continue to contribute to the photo community in the future. |
|
Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
|
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 4:40 PM on 07.15.11 |
->> Dang. I thought Jim was going to share a link to a portfolio of BDSM self-portraits.
"But applying such a policy is fraught with complications, and reasonable people can disagree about the appropriateness of Tony’s decisions."
Kinda says it all if you ask me. |
|
Michael Granse, Photographer
|
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 5:24 PM on 07.15.11 |
| ->> If we have come to believe that it is evil to assist the police in solving a crime then perhaps we have no credibility left to lose. |
|
Robert Scheer, Photographer
|
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 5:27 PM on 07.15.11 |
| ->> Good post Willis. I agree completely. The easiest road was to show cops his photos, which he took, unfortunately. Now, think the Olympian will have a tough time covering activists in the future? You bet. |
|
Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 6:59 PM on 07.15.11 |
->> "I thought Jim was going to share a link to a portfolio of BDSM self-portraits"
Chuck, you have very, very strange dreams.
However, if you would like to sign up for the "premium" channel... |
|
Jesse Beals, Photographer
 |
Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 12:09 AM on 07.16.11 |
->> I have known Overman for 13 years and can say he is one of the best photography people in the industry, he would give his extra camera to you at the big game if your camera broke. Did he do something wrong? Sure you can say showing photos of criminals destroying the state capital to police is wrong. But also is it right for these people to destroy store fronts and cars of innocent people who had nothing to do with the protests? Tony did not walk up and say hey guys look what I have.
I mean at the end of the day, is it ok to watch somebody do a MAJOR crime and get away scott free? Tony was not trying to be a snitch, in this situation the police were trying to figure out who in the group of hundreds of trouble makers was the ones destroying the state capital businesses, cars and streets.
I support Tony for helping his community, home and contry against these criminals |
|
Return to --> Message Board Main Index
|