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the photography business and the american dream
John Strohsacker, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 11:30 AM on 06.09.11
->> http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28/the-photography-business-and-the-american.../
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 1:37 PM on 06.09.11
->> I've read this twice now..... from the blog linked

"The bottom line is this: from a wealth-creation standpoint, photography is a lousy career."........AND.........."I actually can’t think of a worse business than photography. I honestly can’t. "


But then from his site he offers : ($375 by the way)

I currently teach three different workshops:

- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

- Building a Wedding Photography Business

- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

or personal coaching @ $100/hr......

Just who I want teaching or coaching me on the business.... someone who with an MBA and 20 years in the profession can't think of a worse business to be in.....

Now to go find a hunting/fishing blog written by someone in Peta.....

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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 6:22 PM on 06.09.11
->> that was AWESOME....so according to that dude...if I wait this out....in a few years there will be NO photographers because EVERYONE will be teaching seminars and selling gear they invented for other GWC's to buy....and they will be all too busy to ACTUALLY MAKE PHOTOS!!!! happy day's will be here again!!!
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John Korduner, Photographer
Baton Rouge | LA | United States | Posted: 6:50 PM on 06.09.11
->> The Connecticut police academy is more competitive than Harvard admittance? There's a lot of entertaining material in there...
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 7:54 PM on 06.09.11
->> The very idea is absurd as there is no way to be in the photography business and realize "the American Dream".

Let's face it. We do this for love and not for money. A successful career gets you something that people in search of "the American Dream" would laugh at or shoot themselves over.

Deep down, and as much as we all care to dismiss it, we are artists. Useless, creative, happier-than-the-office-drone, crazy, interesting, interested artists that in earlier times would have sought a patron for financial support, whose best chance these days is to find an understanding spouse/partner to support us as long as we keep them amused.

There's very little money in photography these days, but it's still a hell of a lot of fun.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:57 PM on 06.09.11
->> crap. jim colburn just made the BEST post of his life....can you bronze this post?
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 11:21 PM on 06.09.11
->> BTW....I AM the American Dream.
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Scott Evans, Photographer
Bay Village | OH | USA | Posted: 10:31 AM on 06.10.11
->> amen Jim, as my rasta friends would say, tear down Babylon, liberate yourself, and bless up! Basically, do something that actually makes YOU happy, not what someone else thinks will make you happy.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 2:02 PM on 06.10.11
->> LOL Liddy dude, you just beat me to it.

If we're talking PJ, it will be tough. I think folks shooting commercial,portrait, wedding and seniors can do it - and are doing it.

As for happiness, go here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/opinion/08friedman.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=g...

This is a Tom Friedman column from the other day that describes in part, that the consumption based society model will be replaced by a happiness growth based economic model.

One of the implications of this is that starving artists who can provide happiness may be better off in the future.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 3:45 PM on 06.10.11
->> Crap, I was doing this for the money...
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Adam Vogler, Photographer, Photo Editor
Kansas City | Mo. | USA | Posted: 4:01 PM on 06.10.11
->> For Mike,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI
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Denny Kyser, Photographer
Russell | Pa. | United States of America | Posted: 8:39 PM on 07.12.11
->> Michael I have to disagree with you on this one.

Lately it seems that half the seniors I photograph are opening up a photography studio.

We have to work 10X harder to keep our schedules filled and many of my friends are closing up shop. It is sad to see so many good photographers going out of business.

I am not saying PJ is easier, I have a feeling any photography business is one of the worse choices a person starting out can make.

I have run out of responses for all the people that come through the studio saying, I want to become a photographer, or I am taking photography in college.

My daughter has been helping us a few years, and was going to go to school for photography. I have finally talked her out of it and pushing her into business at least to start.
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