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I officially need help finding a P&S.
Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 11:28 PM on 06.06.11 |
->> I've got an idea for a little pet project later on this summer that will likely require a P&S to pull off. However since the extent of my exposure to point and shoots is when someone says "Oh, you're a photographer, can you take our picture with my camera", I'm sort of stumped.
I need:
- something in the 9-14MP range.
- able to shoot ultra wide angle (pseudo fisheye).
- extremely low noise.
- able to accept a cable release or at least be easily rewired.
- must have a "tripod" socket.
- needs to be able to reproduce at double-truck size/quality.
Part of me leans towards just getting a GoPro, but I'll be using this thing for seven days with very little access to power and don't need seven days worth of video to edit through for a handful of frame grabs. |
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Erik Markov, Photographer
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anywhere | IN | | Posted: 11:57 PM on 06.06.11 |
| ->> I don't have any suggestions, I'm just curious why you need a p&s, size cost? The fisheye and cable release seem like hurdles to me. Some p&s I have seen recently link up with iPhone or Android which could make it easier to trigger, can't think of any models offhand. Still leaves the hurdle of the fisheye unless you can figure out a way to attach an accessory lens tho many of those are iffy quality. |
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Brad Tollefson, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 12:34 AM on 06.07.11 |
->> I would recommend the Canon Powershot G12. It's a great little camera that has RAW capabilities. I've seen some pretty good images come from it's younger brothers.
It has a tripod mount, hot shoe mount, cable releases are available and it shoots at 10MP. I've heard the noise is pretty clean, but I can't testify for it myself.
The drawbacks are it is a little pricey (rolling in at 500) and the lens only goes out to 28mm. There are lens adapters available for that though.
All in all, if I were in need of a point and shoot, this is what I would get.
Brad |
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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 12:43 AM on 06.07.11 |
->> Canon G-12, G-11
Great cameras that I use ever day
Chris |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:59 AM on 06.07.11 |
->> For video?
Or stills? |
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Peter Huoppi, Photographer
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New London | CT | USA | Posted: 6:39 AM on 06.07.11 |
| ->> The GoPro will get you the wide lens, and you can power it through the USB port. I've seen setups where a GoPro is hooked to a car battery. It has an interval mode, but it's only 5 MP, and get very noisy in low light. |
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Brian Blanco, Photographer
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Tampa / Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 7:44 AM on 06.07.11 |
->> Maybe a Nikon P7000 with the WE-E75A wide angle converter (takes the native 28mm lens to a 21mm).
If you think this set-up will work then I'll send you my P7000 (with the adapter for the wide angle) to use... no sense in wasting money on something you'll use for a week. |
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Jacob Langston, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | | Posted: 8:04 AM on 06.07.11 |
| ->> Not sure if you will find something that fits all of those features, but I dig my Canon S95. 28-105mm F2.0-4.9 lens, 10.0 Megapixel. does decent in low light, raw files look nice. |
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Geoffrey Bolte, Photographer, Assistant
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Thompson | CT | USA | Posted: 8:21 AM on 06.07.11 |
| ->> Thomas I suggest checking out snapsort.com. It will let you pick and choose the features you want and should be able to give you a few good recommendations. From there you should be able to figure out what you might want!! BTW I'm the same way with P&S!! |
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Jason Joseph, Photographer
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Dublin | OH | USA | Posted: 10:45 AM on 06.07.11 |
->> I second the Canon S95. I bought a Nikon P7100 and returned as fast as I could. The AF was horrible! The S95 has been awesome, to say the least. Its very responsive, has manual settings, clean high ISO's, and most importantly, a f/2.0 lens (at wide angle).
- something in the 9-14MP range. (10MP and shoots RAW)
- able to shoot ultra wide angle (pseudo fisheye). (it has a quasi fisheye setting that makes the images look distorted, like a fisheye)
- extremely low noise. (it seems pretty clean up to and maybe beyond 1600, I just haven't had it long enough to really look at what it can do)
- able to accept a cable release or at least be easily rewired. (not sure about this one, but I firmly believe that anything can be modified)
- must have a "tripod" socket. (yep)
- needs to be able to reproduce at double-truck size/quality. (I think it can) |
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Chuong Doan, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 2:27 PM on 06.07.11 |
->> I recently picked up an Olympus XZ-1.
- It is 10mp.
- 28mm equivalent at its widest. There are fish eye adapters out there if you google it. I have no idea what the quality is like though. F1.8 to 2.5 max aperture. It has the fastest P&S lens out there.
- For a P&S, it has exceptionally low noise from 100-800.
- It will accept a remote release
- It has a tripod socket
- It shoots RAW which is important if you want to have control over noise reduction. The glass and sensor produces a high quality file that I am sure is as capable of doubletruck as any P&S out there.
Heres a link where you can compare images to other cameras, including DSLRS:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusXZ1/page11.asp
Your only hangup would be the "fisheye" part. |
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Darren Carroll, Photographer
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Cedar Creek (Austin) | TX | USA | Posted: 3:15 PM on 06.07.11 |
->> Have you checked out the Samsung TL-500?
- 10 mp
- 24-70mm f 1.8 Schneider (yes, Schneider) lens
- Shoots RAW
- Tripod socket
- No remote release per se, but a USB port. If anyone can turn one of those into a remote release, it's you
- Haven't had a magazine double-truck run from it yet that I know of, but have had a horizontal cropped into a full-page vertical from it, so that's pretty much the same thing, quality-wise. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 6:19 PM on 06.07.11 |
->> I have a Nikon CoolPix P7000 and love it.
The image quality is fabulous up to ISO 800 and more than useable at 1600 (especially in RAW).
I wanted a quiet, small camera I could shoot with unobtrusively, especially on set shoots (TV and movie production). I use the P7000 instead of a DSLR in a Jacobson Blimp for my "wide" camera on these assignments and have a longer lens in the blimp for my second camera.
I also wanted a camera with an optical viewfinder so I don't look like a tourist or P.W. looking at the LCD to shoot.
One of the big reasons I bought the P7000 is it has an external stereo mic input jack. Not many, if any, point & shoots have this feature. A small shotgun mic works great...and my wireless lavs also work well.
Obviously a $450 is limited compared to a DSLR costing several times that. Having point & shoots over the years---including a couple of the G-series Canons---the P7000 is the best I've had. So far.
If you want to spend more and have interchangeable lenses, then you should look at the new 4-3rds systems.
There are obviously many options out there. Hope you find one that suits your needs.
(Please forgive any typos---punching this out on the iPhone.) |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 06.07.11 |
->> Thanks everyone for the input. Sorry for the delay in response. There just aren't enough hours in the day for me to even screw around online lately. :)
I can't tell you what I'm doing yet because A: It'll spoil the surprise and B: It runs the risk of copycats... Not the angles per se, but when and how they're going to be used.
Robert H.- Still photos.
I need a P&S due to weight concerns. I've only got about 20-28 ounces to play with. When I meant "little access to power" I basically meant "no power". I'm not taking a laptop and I'll be sharing one one cigarette lighter between 10-12 people but only for a few moments a day. Actual wall outlets? I'm not planning on any access to those either. I'm just taking a few spare batteries. ...
I'm peaking your interest now aren't I? :D
I thank you for the above suggestions and will go take a look at them. Brian, I might take you up on the offer, but the wife and I sort of need something pocket sized for hacking around with anyway. If I can't get it all put together for a decent price I'll give you a jingle. |
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Radu Rosca, Photographer
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Tirgu Mures | MS | Romania | Posted: 2:58 AM on 06.08.11 |
->> Thomas, have you considered the fuji x100? it's not quite a P&S but it's very light and does everything a dslr does. The only downside is the 23mm lens on a aps-c sensor and the higher price compared to a regular P&S
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmX100/ |
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Ron Erdrich, Photographer
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Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 11:47 AM on 06.13.11 |
->> I love my G11. There are adapters for the G11/G12 that allow you to put a wide angle "lens" over the zoom. If you get one, make sure you get the metal adaptor, not the plastic one.
Good luck,
-Ron- |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 1:14 AM on 06.15.11 |
->> I got some more details about the excursion. We'll have access to power in the evenings (not sure how long), some are bringing "handheld wind chargers for cell phones" (whatever the eff that means), but kinetic energy chargers will not work... (This is like a riddle to so some of you I'm sure. :D )
Power or not, I'm still only venturing out armed only with my iphone and this P&S due to the weight.
The reason for the wide angle capabilities, is that I want the EXTREME foreground to be in frame for three of the angles I have in mind. By extreme, I mean a few inches in front of the lens, and I want it in focus along with stuff that's 5-30 feet away.
I know I'm not asking for the impossible, I just don't know what P&S can pull this off that will be able to be fired by cable release and all the other original prerequisites. |
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Clay Begrin, Photographer
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Petaluma | Ca | USA | Posted: 5:39 AM on 06.15.11 |
| ->> Thomas, I bought a Canon G12 based upon all the positive reviews of the G10, G11 and then the G12. Been very happy. I wish you luck in your endeavor and am looking forward to seeing your results from your project! |
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
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Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 8:36 AM on 06.15.11 |
->> It looks like the Nikon P7000 could be your best choice with the addition of the WC-E75A wide angle lens (plus adapter) to get you down to about 21mm.
I can't find a comparable wide-angle adapter for the Canon G10/11/12 on either lensmateonline.com or Canon's website.
It looks like you'll have to take your chances with an after-market fisheye adapter from eBay, etc. if you want to go wider than 21mm. With the tiny sensors it is hard to get good wide-angle, but the tradeoff is that the small sensor size does give you a very wide DOF. |
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
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Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 5:40 AM on 08.15.11 |
| ->> I see you are back to civilization... can you tell us anything more about your top secret project with a point and shoot? |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 3:39 PM on 08.15.11 |
->> Curtis, It's been two months. Who are you talking to?
--Mark |
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Michael Coons, Photographer
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Camarillo | CA | | Posted: 4:20 PM on 08.15.11 |
->> Mark,
I could be wrong but I believe Curtis is referring to Mr. Witte's Super Top Secret Kick-Ass Photo Project. |
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Rich Pilling, Photographer
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New York | NY | U.S.A. | Posted: 5:05 PM on 08.15.11 |
| ->> Canon SD 1400 IS. Small and 16MP. Does a lot with many special features. |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 5:17 PM on 08.15.11 |
| ->> I think Curtis noticed Thomas's recent post, and sought an update about the project. |
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Daniel Goncalves, Photographer
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Jacksonville | FL | USA | Posted: 8:03 PM on 08.15.11 |
| ->> G12 or S95 (Canon). |
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