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eBook: Sports Photo Success
Thomas Boyd, Photographer
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 1:59 PM on 05.16.11
->> And he's not even a sportsshooter member.


http://www.sportsphotosuccess.com/sportsphotosuccess/ebook/?hop=oldreliabl
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 2:16 PM on 05.16.11
->> After reading the page I was all set to enter my credit card info. Then I read this in the earnings disclosure section:

"...EVEN THOUGH THIS INDUSTRY IS ONE OF THE FEW WHERE ONE CAN WRITE THEIR OWN CHECK IN TERMS OF EARNINGS, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL EARN ANY MONEY USING THE TECHNIQUES AND IDEAS IN THESE MATERIALS..."

Seriously, it is a beautifully written piece with every sales cliche known to man. Kyle is a hustler. Google "Kyle Landon photography" (I was looking for his website) and you will get at least five links that will redirect back to the main site. Never did find 'his' photo site where he uploads photos to make $900/game.
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 2:17 PM on 05.16.11
->> I love how certain, arbitrary parts of the sentences are highlighted.

Also, how long has this site been around? Since 1996?

But on the other hand, we all know people are going to buy it and just one more reminder why I don't shoot youth sports.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 6:56 PM on 05.16.11
->> This page is a carbon copy of a volleyball book that I used to get emails about when coaching to help my team get instant winning success, which was funny because the volleyball one was a carbon copy of a music book I used to get emails about all the time as well - so obviously they just found some get rich quick scheme template out there for the page that's been around over 10 years.

I signed up for a free preview, and to my surprise parents like photos that are "crisp, in focus, balanced, and neither, underexposed nor overexposed". If only I had known that!! Why was everyone keeping this a secret from me until now?

http://www.sportsphotosuccess.com/SpecialReport/SRDaY1.html

However, it came from "Kyle Toothman" - not Landon.
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Luke Johnson, Photographer, Student/Intern
St.Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 11:02 PM on 05.16.11
->> I couldn't get past more than a few paragraphs. The cheesiness was overwhelming.
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 9:08 AM on 05.17.11
->> What the?
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 10:59 AM on 05.17.11
->> I can't wait til I see the infomercial on afternoon tv between airings of "SHAM WOW" commercials.
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Gary Gardiner, Photographer
Westerville | OH | USA | Posted: 12:55 PM on 05.17.11
->> http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-5227699-baseball-excitement.php
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 1:21 PM on 05.17.11
->> "Never-Before-Revealed Business Secrets"

Never? Wow!

"massive income"

Massive? Double Wow!

"this Sports Photo Success ebook could easily sell for hundreds of dollars"

Hmmm... To who?

"I've had the great privilege of blessing a lot of people with my photography services"

Blessing? Is this The Lord selling a book? A saint? The Pope???

"Sound too good to be true?"

ABSOLUTELY!
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 05.17.11
->> Only thing that can be found using the email you get the preview from...

http://www.facebook.com/kyletoothman

...and this is how you make one of those nifty webpages...

https://internet-income-secure.com/index.php

My new book, "How to find a scammer on a rainy day, because you have to do something when the weather won't let you make that $931.69 a game!" should be out later this week. All should buy, special discount for SS members, you get one for the price of one! How can you pass up a deal like that?

I do wonder if the actual photography business, David Morris Photography in Kansas City, that is one of the reviews knows they're name is being used to help sell this crap - if he's an employee, a friend, whatever. You'd think any legit business would not want their name being associated with someone who is using one of these get rich quick schemes.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 3:27 PM on 05.17.11
->> What a waste of trees and bandwidth.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 3:37 PM on 05.17.11
->> @Mike Janes "However, it came from "Kyle Toothman" - not Landon."

I think he has a split personality??? Under the headline it says "By: Kyle Landon" but as you noted the article signed by Toothman. Landon is shown as the author of the book on the OP's link which is why I went with that name.

Off to make my $931.69 for the day ...
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 05.17.11
->> One more thing...

whoever is actually responsible for the site is following this thread. Right after I wrote the previous post, the section Mike pointed out signed by Toothman was changed less than three minutes later when I went back to grab the quote below. I look for this part to be changed, too.

This doesn't add up. I mean really it doesn't-
As of 2:45pm Kyle Toothman or Kyle Landon or whoever it is wrote in their special report (
http://www.sportsphotosuccess.com/SpecialReport/SRDaY1.html):
"Remember, if you photograph five games - averaging $93
of sales per team, you'll make $931.69. In one day! That's some extraordinary spending money."

Is it just me or is there some new magical modern mathematical business formula that we aren't using that Landon Who-ever is.

No matter, by the time you read this, I'm sure Kyle will have found the calculator function on his iPhone and learn that 5x$93 does not equal $931.69.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 5:04 PM on 05.17.11
->> $93 would be for both teams, over five games, so 10 teams total I believe.

I don't know about for other areas but around here it's pretty hard to shoot 5 games in a day considering most play at the same time and not the same location. I keep close track of my game sales simply because I am not the type of person to go shoot where I can't also make money to pay bills. The average game sales are nowhere near $93/team - sure they happen, but not like this joker is trying to make it sound, he's just preying on the naive. I'm also guessing in this get rich quick scheme it also has no mention of costs, insurance, taxes, etc.

Typical though, this is what you get from somehow who probably has never done it a day in their lives, yet listened to some random numbers given out that has no real bearing on the entire task at hand, another lost perception instead of reality. Definitely not a person who respects photographers and what they do, no wonder he's using a fake name!

Anyways, HI KYLE, thanks for reading!! Make sure you sign up to join SS so we can see your top ten photos on your page, at $25/year it's nothing for you to join up - you'll make it back the first five minutes of your next game!
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Jeroen de Jong, Photographer
Waalwijk | _ | Netherlands | Posted: 5:19 PM on 05.17.11
->> 10 teams over 5 games, each team $93. That would be $930.00, not $931.69.
Those $1.69 is change he found in the parkinglot?

But I see a whole series of books. About portrets, nature, macro, flash in the field, you name it.

Does he allready has a rep. in Europe?
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