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Need an Apple program suggestion
Jason Jump, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 3:59 PM on 04.17.11 |
->> I am a PC guy that is very used to using BreezeBrowswer to comb through my photos to batch delete out of focus shots and/or unwanted shots before I upload them to my website.
I have been using a Mac for about a year now with Windows running so that I can use BreezeBrowser. But with this set up once I go through one game and delete what I need to delete it takes FOREVER and a day before BreezeBrowser will start responding in normal speed.
So does anyone know of an Apple program that will allow you to do mass deletions within a folder of game photos? I would like to speed things up as I'm tired of waiting on BB :-). |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Derek Montgomery, Photographer
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Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 4:14 PM on 04.17.11 |
| ->> +1 for Photo Mechanic. Hands down the best out there in my opinion. |
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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 7:12 PM on 04.17.11 |
| ->> No options - Photo Mechanic! |
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Robert Deutsch, Photographer
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NY | NY | USA | Posted: 7:14 PM on 04.17.11 |
| ->> The Knob. |
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Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
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Andrew Fielding, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 9:47 PM on 04.17.11 |
| ->> Photo Mechanic is the only thing you should consider...as others have said, it is the industry standard. Beyond just being the industry standard it's also the greatest photo organization application known to man. |
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Shane Psaltis, Photographer
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Aquebogue | NY | USA | Posted: 8:59 AM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> Photo mechanic hands down , the best program made. I came from a PC and only used BB until I switched to Mac and there was no BB. If I ever went back to a PC I would still use photo mechanic. |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 9:26 AM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> Jason - While Photo Mechanic is a great program and I still use it for certain tasks, Aperture is also a powerful tool for organizing and editing images. In fact, I think it has more and better options for organizing images than Photo Mechanic not to mention being able to crop, tone and sharpen images. However, if you are looking simply to delete unwanted images, Photo Mechanic is probably your best bet. Aperture has a steep learning curve, which can be incredibly frustrating at times for various reasons. I still use Photo Mechanic for some assignments, but I have been using Aperture almost exclusively for about 6 months. No need to open Photoshop most of the time any more. Once I figured it out my workflow things zip along pretty well. Sportsshooter Tom Boyd details a workflow for using Aperture to edit three photographers' work during an NBA playoff game here: http://aperture.maccreate.com/2010/04/30/aperture-3-03-editing-three-photog.../. |
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Neil Turner, Photographer
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Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 9:54 AM on 04.18.11 |
->> Yet another Photo Mechanic devotee...
I really want to like Aperture but I can't. Every time I try to use it there is an issue. Sometimes it won't make galleries, sometimes it takes twenty or more minutes to get the pictures from an 8Gb card over FW800. To get the best from it you really need a couple of expensive plug-ins so I'm afraid that I still love Photo Mechanic for ingest, sort, edit, caption, rename and even FTP. Adobe Camera RAW sorts file conversion and all in rapid time. |
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Jason Jump, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 10:28 AM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> Thanks everyone for the suggestions! GREATLY appreciated!!! |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 10:38 AM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> I just use Photoshop and always have. So what is it about Photo Mechanic that is so attractive to many of you? Why is it better than Photoshop? |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 11:35 AM on 04.18.11 |
->> Neil - I know exactly what you mean. Some of the setting revert can make things frustrating. It took me a while to get my Aperture settings dialed in to where it ran more efficiently than my Photo Mechanic/Adobe Camera Raw/Photoshop workflow. It is certainly not as easy as the aformentioned trio of programs to learn.
Your import issue is a bit perplexing. One of the great things about Aperture is that you can edit images before they have finished importing from the card. That was one of the features that compelled me to figure out the software. |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 12:03 PM on 04.18.11 |
->> Jeff,
PhotoMechanic is for browsing and editing images and then Photoshop for processing. |
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Neil Turner, Photographer
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Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 12:22 PM on 04.18.11 |
->> I think that Aperture was designed for studio based photographers and I still think that news based workflows are at best a compromise using it. Believe me, I have tried really hard to like Aperture but those are several dozen hours of my life that I don't regard as wasted - just a learning curve that didn't head upwards!
I don't deny that a lot of people like Aperture - that's why I keep trying - but I'm still not one of them.
To answer Jeff... Photo Mechanic does brilliantly all of those things that Photoshop does badly: caption, sort, rename, create web galleries, FTP (PS doesn't do that at all) and largely doesn't do those things that Photoshop does well (toning, RAW conversions etc) - two perfectly complimentary applications! |
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Brian Hollingsworth, Photographer
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Austin | TX | USA | Posted: 1:20 PM on 04.18.11 |
->> For those of you using Photo Mechanic, do you also use LIghtroom in your typical workflow?
I've used Photo Mechanic in the past, then moved to a Bridge workflow at the office, and now we're toying with Lightroom. I've been advocating buying Photo Mechanic for years, but I haven't been able to answer the question of what it does better than the software we already have.
Any thoughts? Is the ingesting and editing step easier in Photo Mechanic or Lightroom?
Thanks,
Brian H. |
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Otto Kitsinger, Photographer
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 5:57 PM on 04.18.11 |
->> Brian -
For editorial but not on a deadline, I use Lightroom almost exclusively. There's not much call for the level of pixel-level detailed editing Photoshop provides, and while PhotoMechanic is faster sorting and for captioning, if I don't need the speed, I'd rather do it all in one program; it makes sorting through my library much easier when it's all in a library in the first place.
For commercial, a combo of Lightroom and Photoshop, as commercial work more often can use that level of detailed editing.
For editorial on a deadline - sports, really - it's a combo of PhotoMechanic and Lightroom. Nothing sorts images faster than PM - not even close - but a quick trip through Lightroom for cropping, noise reduction, and color correction is far faster for me than Photoshop would be. Then, I caption and transmit from Photo Mechanic.
To answer your exact question, I find it easier to ingest and edit all in LR; but I find it faster to ingest and do a first edit in PM. Fastest, of course, is locking images in camera and downloading locked only with PM; a trick that Aperture does do, but LR doesn't. |
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Robert Smith, Photographer
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Brandon | MS | USA | Posted: 6:02 PM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> Lightroom |
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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 9:42 PM on 04.18.11 |
->> My workflow isn't on deadline but I do have to look at 500 to 1000 images at the end of a very long day (usually 12+hrs on a movie set). PM is way faster to do a select/reject edit, rename and number than any other program out there. I color code (tag) as I go to pick out 10 shots of the day that I will be sending to the studio just so they a feel how the show is progressing.
I can then easily highlight my selects, copy just a reduced file size jpeg only to Aperture, do a quick crop and color tweak and email from Aperture.
Much faster and simpler than PS. And once you get used to Aperture you may find that for non critical proofs it will be easier than PS. I still use PS for printing and critical color work but not nearly as much once I got behind Aperture. |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 10:00 PM on 04.18.11 |
| ->> I use PM and LR3. We use PM for the import, initial cull and renaming. We use LR3 for keywords, themed catalogs, file export and management of a Zenfolio storefront. We have changed the color setting in PM so they correspond to the color codes in LR3. |
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Jason Myers, Photographer
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West Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 1:29 AM on 04.19.11 |
| ->> I'm a long time Aperture user who just yesterday switched to Photomechanic and Lightroom...It was a big jump, but Aperture has been soooo buggy and this past week wouldn't even open. Finally got it up and running again, but after several loyal years with Aperture I couldn't stand it anymore. So...I have no idea what I'm doing with the new programs yet, but feel good about making the switch...so far |
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Jason Jump, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 11:22 AM on 04.20.11 |
->> I downloaded the trial version of Photo Mechanic and it does exactly what I'm looking for it to do, however it's not quite as user friendly for tagging photos as BreezeBrowser unless I haven't found the keyboard shortcut yet, which is very possible.
It's definitely better than anything else that I have found on the Mac at least for myself! |
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Nigel Farrow, Photographer
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Suffolk | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 2:23 PM on 04.20.11 |
->> Jason, in case it helps, the manual for Photomechanic can be downloaded from here :
http://www.camerabits.com/site/downloads.html
The forum search function is also quite good for specific enquiries particularly with regards to making PM ratings and labels compatible with those of the various editing software. |
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Brett Clark, Photographer
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Elizabeth City | NC | USA | Posted: 2:27 PM on 04.20.11 |
| ->> Jason, seems like hitting "T" is about as user friendly as it gets :). Really, once you learn the keyboard shortcuts you hardly even need the mouse and they're very intuitive and will save you a tremendous amount of time. |
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 2:58 PM on 04.21.11 |
| ->> Photo Mechanic is simple, fast and it works. If every program worked as well for so little we'd be paying $99 for a full version of Photoshop that zoomed along at 10 times the speed of CS5. |
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Jason Jump, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 9:13 PM on 04.22.11 |
| ->> Brett yes I was very happy to find the keyboard shortcut and I am now the proud owner of Photo Mechanic using their anniversary special! Sweet deal. Thanks again for the suggestions. |
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