| Sign in: |
| Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features. |
|
|
|
|
|| SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board
Beck's SI Cover
Max Waugh, Photographer
 |
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 11:56 AM on 03.24.11 |
->> Just saw the latest SI cover by Robert Beck (http://bit.ly/gP5d4t). I love the angle, and am curious if anyone (Robert?) can share or even speculate on the details behind the set up.
I've shot tournament hoops before, but don't recall remotes (or photographers) being set up along the sideline floor, as appears to be the case here. I'd imagine this was sitting at the front row spectators' feet, unless there's something unique about this venue's configuration. So was it just a matter of chatting with some fans and making sure they didn't kick the photographer or the camera over...? |
|
Rod Mar, Photographer
|
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:04 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> I'll let Robert make the explanation of how he did it (since he is the Man), but it reminds me of a very similar shot he made of a Gonzaga player at KeyArena some years ago. I think it was Richie Frahm against Stanford. Very cool angle, yet another very cool photo by Roberto. |
|
Chuck Liddy, Photographer
|
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> Since the benches are in the photo the camera is one of the remote cameras set up under the media tables. No spectators to worry about there....just writers who might accidentally kick the camera in front of them. although at the sites I've been at there is a lot of leg room under those positions. There were six or seven of them at the Charlotte site. |
|
David Heasley, Photographer, Photo Editor
 |
Columbus | Oh | U.S.A | Posted: 12:35 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> The Cleveland site had atleast one of those setup under the tables too. Every few timeouts someone would go under the table cloth to change cards(I would imagine) or something like that. That might be my fav part of shooting an event like that, seeing how others do the various parts of the job. |
|
Max Waugh, Photographer
|
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> Right, I completely forgot that the sideline area is packed with media tables for the tournament. Makes much more sense. Thanks guys. |
|
Pat Lovell, Photographer
|
Bloomington | IN | US | Posted: 1:03 PM on 03.24.11 |
->> Robert was on the Dan Patrick Show today, he called in to clear a few things up. Dan was listening to PTI on ESPN and Michael Wilbon said the image was photoshopped. Dan disagreed with the image being photoshopped and someone got Robert on the phone in the meantime.
Robert referenced the Frahm shot and talked about the setup of the camera. Chuck is correct, it was setup under the media tables. |
|
Chuck Liddy, Photographer
|
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 1:15 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> Okay, that is disturbing. Let me get this straight...so a talking head, former sports writer says one of the best sports photojournalists in the world photoshopped and altered an image to an audience on a national radio program? I guess it would be okay to say he plagiarized his stories before he became an idiotic talking head. Michael Wilbon = douchebag. |
|
Pat Lovell, Photographer
|
Bloomington | IN | US | Posted: 1:53 PM on 03.24.11 |
->> Chuck and others,
I made a little mistake and wanted to clear it up.
When listening to Dan Patrick, he said Michael Wilbon was absent from the show and Kevin Blackstone was filling in and Blackstone made the comment.
Sorry, was posting in a hurry, don't want to give Wilbon any more grief than he needs. |
|
Brad Mangin, Photographer
 |
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 2:17 PM on 03.24.11 |
->> Robert Beck is my hero. I fell in love with this picture that reminded me of the earlier Beck frame that Rod mentioned above when I saw it in Snapshot last week:
http://tinyurl.com/4hvuu2a
Robert just Tweeted about going on the radio this morning:
http://twitter.com/shoot802 |
|
Ivan Pierre Aguirre, Student/Intern, Photographer
|
El Paso | TX | United States | Posted: 2:49 PM on 03.24.11 |
->> Once again, nice shot by Mr. Beck and his crew.
Also, question, did the NCAA change the strobing policies this year for the tournament? Last year when I was in San Jose, as far as I can remember, nobody including, AP, SI, Getty, etc used strobes because only the official photographer/agency could use strobes and remotes (on basket apparatus.)
btw this is the original to said image.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/110647063/Sports-Illustrated
yes, the setup was under a table. Table cloth got in the way in this frame.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/110641081/Sports-Illustrated
Thanks. |
|
Chuck Liddy, Photographer
|
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:56 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> Kevin Blackstone = douchebag. There's MY correction. |
|
Chris Morrison, Photographer, Assistant
|
Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:05 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> I saw the photo on SI.com earlier this week and thought to myself ... "that's a cover". Guess I wasn't the only one. |
|
George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 4:42 PM on 03.24.11 |
->> Ivan.
For remotes only the NCAA can put cameras anywhere on the backboards or stanchion. Actually it is supposed be no cameras at all in those places until the Final Four when the NCAA does it.
As far as strobes go, most agencies forgo strobes now because of better high ISO performance and cost. However, if the arena is dark enough, SI will install lights, or if they are already in the building they will be rented out. Again, most folks just don't bother with the expense, but strobes are not outlawed.
My guess would be that because of the lighting no one bothered with it but the local guy had person had their own set already installed for their regular coverage in the arena and went ahead and used them because they could do so free of charge. |
|
David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Robert Beck, Photographer
 |
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 5:02 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> What happened? I went surfing this morning. |
|
Luke Johnson, Photographer, Student/Intern
|
St.Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 5:09 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> I want to be Robert Beck when I grow up.... That shot is so awesome. |
|
Mark Sutton, Photographer
 |
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 11:08 PM on 03.24.11 |
| ->> I saw Liddy's floor remote at the Women's ACC Tourney 3 weeks ago (Cutting board with a ball head), so on my way back down to Winston-Salem for the MEAC Tourney the following week. I stopped at Lowe's, had the kid cut a $4.99 wood shelf 12 inches. Drill a hole in the middle, brought a $0.16 screw and attached my ball head onto it. Placed some coasters on the bottom not to scratch the floor. Put a 50D and a 24-70 mike-mike on it with a pocket wizard. Got scared of the STUPID Mascot's kicking it under the basket when they ran off the court. Moved it to the side for the Semi's and Final's like Mr. Beck. Love the images too. |
|
Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
 |
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 3:13 AM on 03.25.11 |
->> For those who want to hear the radio show from this morning it looks like grabbing it as a podcast from iTunes is the easiest way. I've noted the times they talk about the photo so you can skip past the other stuff. Robert calls in during the second hour.
Hour 1 - 6:07 to 7:55 / 10:55 to 12:05 / 12:55 to 13:30 / 13:55 to 14:15 / 23:45 to 24:55
Hour 2 - 11:42 to 12:30 / hear Beck from: 15:35 to 20:02
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-patrick-radio-show/id279241099?i...
You need to grab two files: 3/24 Hour 1 (Jeff Goodman breaks down...) and Hour 2 (John Thompson III talks...) |
|
Radu Rosca, Photographer
|
Tirgu Mures | MS | Romania | Posted: 4:11 AM on 03.25.11 |
->> @George, i can understand that hi-tech can save you time, equipment and effort, but does anyone who shot on strobes wants to go back and compensate with high iso? I know i wouldn't.
Great shot one more time! |
|
Peter Aiken, Photographer
|
Manhattan | KS | USA | Posted: 8:09 AM on 03.25.11 |
| ->> The SI curse strikes again, BYU's Jimmer on the cover, BYU and Jimmer out of the tournament! Nice shot though. |
|
Robert Beck, Photographer
|
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 03.25.11 |
| ->> The whole sordid story will be in the next Sports Shooter Illustrated. I turned down Vanity Fair.....And I did NOT call the Dan Patrick show. They called me. At six in the morning. |
|
Mark Sutton, Photographer
|
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 03.25.11 |
| ->> Thanks Robert in advance for sharing this with us and I listened to your segment on the Dan Patrick show on my way home form work. Keep up the GREAT work!!! |
|
Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
|
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 7:19 PM on 03.25.11 |
| ->> Apologies Robert, I knew they tracked you down from listening to the recording of the show. I just worded that poorly that when I posted above. |
|
Alan Look, Photographer
|
Bloomington/Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 7:36 PM on 03.25.11 |
->> a cutting board floor remote? Did it look like this http://www.sportsshooter.com/adlook/floorplate/ I knew I should have got a patent.
Nice shot Robert! Does bite a bit to get called at 6am. |
|
Robert Beck, Photographer
|
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 9:05 PM on 03.25.11 |
| ->> Don't worry boys. I didn't hear either phone. I slept in 'till 6:43 when my dog told me to get up. |
|
George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
|
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:55 PM on 03.25.11 |
->> @Radu.
Most strobe shooters want that look and don't want to compensate with high ISO. But, when you are talking a few thousand dollars, maybe, in rental or installation fees then, Yes, yes they do want to compensate electronically.
Most arenas strobes are already in place, but at some an organization must bring in lights and crew to install, etc and maybe pay union fees to have workers move them to the catwalks. It is not worth the money in today's tight budgets.
I know Lucas Oil Stadium at last year's Final Four did not have the proper electrical in the catwalks and wanted a mere $30,000 to wire it if any organization wanted to install strobes. Wanna guess how many ponied up the money? |
|
Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern, Photographer
|
Washington | DC | United States | Posted: 12:04 AM on 03.26.11 |
| ->> I don't think I will ever forget my first NCAA March Madness game when I saw the SI guys' Pelican cases full of remote gear stretching from baseline to baseline. Incredible! |
|
Return to --> Message Board Main Index
|