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Newspapers publishing photos on Facebook, Twitter, Flickr +?
Tyson Trish, Photographer
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North Jersey | NJ | | Posted: 8:48 PM on 03.14.11 |
->> Curious about your newspapers efforts publishing photos online via Facebook, Twitter, flickr or any other method. What has the response been like? What are the problems/pit falls with these or other social media tools? Can you share your url or any online examples?
Also, does anyone know of any online photo gallery creating apps. Ideally something that would let you create a photo gallery and embed it anywhere via an online web app, not traditional PC based tools.
Thanks for your input. |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 10:53 PM on 03.14.11 |
->> Our newspaper's photo page does well. But I only post links, not photos to their server.
However, the pitfalls are usage rights...
"you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."
http://www.facebook.com/terms.php |
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Adam Vogler, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Kansas City | Mo. | USA | Posted: 12:45 AM on 03.15.11 |
| ->> We also just post links not actual content, the idea being to use social media to drive traffic to our website. No sense in giving up the page views and the resulting ad revenue. |
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Tyson Trish, Photographer
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North Jersey | NJ | | Posted: 10:24 AM on 03.15.11 |
| ->> How do you guys promote your facebook pages? |
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 11:25 AM on 03.15.11 |
->> Same here -- we just post links to slideshows and videos, and we only have a Facebook fan page. I will, on occasion, also put up jpg's of pages to show our layout, image usage and such.
As far as promotion, I figure it's word of mouth, so to say, as everything is with social networking. Send it out to friends and colleagues and hope they do the same. I don't remember what we started out with (maybe a few hundred) and over a year or so we're up to 2,125 "likes."
Of course, I've not posted anything since like December, which is bad. If there's anything from my experience I can share, it's to try and get other staffers involved, too; you don't want to be saddled with the responsibility of being the sole gatekeeper. Just like a photo blog, it's a time commitment, and if you're able to have other folks who can (and want to) help, that makes it a lot easier.
Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, let me know.
- gerry - |
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Andrew Link, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Winona | MN | USA | Posted: 1:28 PM on 03.15.11 |
->> I took over my newspaper's Facebook page when I was hired last November. I have mostly been posting links to stories and galleries to get people to our website.
Occasionally, I post a photo that won't run in the paper or is a stand alone to our Facebook page to tease and later link it with the story. All of the photos I post are low res and watermarked. Pretty much the same as other newspaper Facebook pages.
I, too, am looking for any advice to draw "likes" and tips on handling the page. Thanks. |
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 03.15.11 |
->> We use RSS feeds to post stories, photos and photo galleries to our Facebook Page:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/JHNewsAndGuide
The FB page has become a great traffic driver to our website, jhnewsandguide.com |
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Mike Burley, Photographer
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Dubuque | IA | USA | Posted: 2:39 PM on 03.21.11 |
->> Can someone please explain in practical, real world terms what this means for newspapers?
"you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it." |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 5:21 PM on 03.21.11 |
->> Technically, you are breaking the terms of use of your own paper's policy (assuming they have one and the terms are to keep all files within company-owned sites and whatever deals they strike up with content sharing i.e. AP, Zuma, etc.).
If you upload a photo to Facebook, it becomes theirs to use in any way. When you delete the photo the non-written contract is broken.
However, you don't know who has "stolen" the image at that point. So if you have deleted the image and some random person has it in their photo gallery, FB could use it to advertise a dating site in Russia. At that point you can't sue or anything since the file is still being hosted by FB servers. And you can't correct the problem since you have no idea where it has migrated to.
In the end you're pretty much screwed. That's why all the photos I post on FB are ones I put "zero effort" into. I post with the mentality, "This might end up on some random site in Slovenia."
That's my understanding. |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 5:24 PM on 03.21.11 |
| ->> P.S. The paper still owns copyright but by posting it on FB they have unlimited usage rights until all copies have been deleted off their server. |
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Rowan Byers, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Goleta | CA | United States | Posted: 6:22 PM on 03.21.11 |
->> My university newspaper used to put random pictures on a flickr site that nobody went too. There was very little methodology behind which photos would go up. The original photographers were not credited, which was my biggest beef with the process.
Corey, I understand your concern about FB stealing your image but is that a good reason to only post "zero-effort" photos on FB? I've had a few images stolen in my time from online sites (for web use), but I've also had images stolen by people who have shook my hand and been handed a disk in exchange for a check that never comes in the mail (billboard ad). That company is out of business now, but I'm still here. I guess what my point is, is that Facebook and all the other social networking sites are places where you can really promote yourself on your own terms. Sure there is a lot of crap posted by people who take themselves and their photography too seriously, diluting the quality of what a "professional photo" looks like, but if your images are good enough to stand out, why not put them up on Facebook with a watermark? That way if they get stolen, your name is still attached to them.
Perhaps it's time to revise/rethink the old professional mantra of "never give work away for free." These days anybody CAN get photography (of passable quality) done for free, and if me giving away one image leads me to a paid gig, I'll do it. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 9:01 PM on 03.21.11 |
->> "Newspapers publishing photos on Facebook, Twitter, Flickr"
Can someone explain why this is beneficial to a newspaper? The logic evades me at this point. |
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Tyson Trish, Photographer
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North Jersey | NJ | | Posted: 9:56 PM on 03.21.11 |
| ->> The answer to that is simple, social media sites can drive serious traffic and exposure. A newspaper may not care if someone steals their photo if it potentially can be shared via facebook or twitter all over the community. I am not adovcating either way here, I just am curious how newspapers are using these tools specifically to publish and share their photos. I suspect alot of newspapers are experimenting with it or will in the near future. |
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