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The Next Photo Debate?
Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 02.11.11 |
->> Just saw it....had the same feeling....came here to post it....you beat me.
For me, the biggest sin is of the judges awarding it an HM. Yeah, so see it come up during judging, laugh a little bit, and then move on.
Does this create a copyright debate as well? |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 11:19 AM on 02.11.11 |
->> An article on the matter...
http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/2025845/world...
"I use a tripod and mount the camera, photographing a virtual reality that I see on the screen. It's a real file that I have, I'm not taking a screenshot. I put the camera forward and do an exact crop, and that's what makes it my picture. It doesn't belong to Google, because I'm interpreting Google; I'm appropriating Google. If you look at the history of art, there's a long history of appropriation." |
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:24 AM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> Well then, I guess when people here ask how they can get credentials to the NBA/NFL/MLB etc, we can just tell them to take photos of their TV instead. |
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 11:25 AM on 02.11.11 |
->> I went to the source and asked the ever helpful and gracious Sportsshooter member Dave Burnett, a judge on this year's panel, about that choice. His answer is very interesting:
"It was a response to the world we live in: where CCTVs are everywhere -- trucks, buildings, etc. and how do we deal with all the information which is constantly being created
No obvious answers, but we're happy to raise the question.
It redefines what is a photography and how photographs play a part in all our lives.
If you grew up with Google Earth, you see the world differently than those who came before you and did not."
Personally it seems the judges are responding to how photographic images are being reconsidered as content which is changing many rules of image creation, branding and distribution.
(quote posted with permission) |
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Peter Huoppi, Photographer
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New London | CT | USA | Posted: 11:59 AM on 02.11.11 |
->> Is World Press Photo supposed to be a photojournalism contest? Wolf's project is an interesting work of art, but he's only curating images captured by someone (something?) else.
The work provides no context, no storytelling, so in my mind, does not belong in a contest that is supposedly recognizing photojournalism.
And for the record, the idea is hardly original, as blogs have been collecting images from Google street view for quite some time:
http://www.streetviewfun.com/
http://www.gstreetsightings.com/ |
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Matthew Ginn, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 12:03 PM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> This supports my growing conviction that WPP, POYI, etc. are art contests. |
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> I agree Allen there are some fantastic images. but the fact of the matter is that's why most of these contests are pretty much worthless and masturbatory endeavors. maybe everyone should enter whatever they want, manipulate the crap out of their images, over tone, over saturate, de-saturate, sharpen until it screams put frilly borders on your photo then call it art. the high and mighty cliques (aka judges) will shake their heads as they ponder this art and proclaim it a winner.....and just say, "well you old fuddy duddy's out there who want to follow the rules need to realize the world is changing. so we too must change our ethics since our society has no ethics. we don't care if you stole someone else's stuff (unless it's ours) you proclaim it's art. so be it. what a bunch of hypocrites. |
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Chris Pietsch, Photographer
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Eugene | OR | USA | Posted: 1:07 PM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> The entry is a master piece of editing, maybe even an interesting social document, but original work? Not a chance. |
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Matthew Ginn, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 3:46 PM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> Exactly, Chris. He might have some basis for argument if he had used the images in some wider context--or any context--but not as presented. The fact that he used a camera only separates these from screen grabs by a technicality. |
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 4:25 PM on 02.11.11 |
| ->> apologies for posting to the wrong thread.....mumble,mumble |
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David Shea, Photographer
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Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 4:29 PM on 02.11.11 |
->> Damn, I knew I should have entered this:
http://bit.ly/bVvtXO
Move back up the street to see the whole sequence! |
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Chris Pietsch, Photographer
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