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US Airways baggage fees going up
Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 2:45 AM on 02.10.11 |
->> It just never stops... these fees almost double! Remind me never to fly this airline.
http://tinyurl.com/4jnzzuo |
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 3:05 AM on 02.10.11 |
->> Oh, they were already on my list for never flying again right behind AirTran.
Gimme that 200 mph rail!! |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 7:07 AM on 02.10.11 |
->> Phil,
US Airways is the only airline at my local airport. If I want to fly from HVN, I fly US Air or I don't fly (or drive 60 miles to PVD or BDL) |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 7:32 AM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> Steven; no biggie. I fly out of Minneapolis or Ohama. The drive is roughly three hours. I wouldn't fly them before.... |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 8:17 AM on 02.10.11 |
->> Michael,
This is why I choose to not live in the sticks ... and live in a place that has a population of more than 12 :0)
(Before you mark this inappropriate ... I'm kidding ... OK not really) |
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 8:33 AM on 02.10.11 |
->> Steven, you got your inappropriate!
US Airways for years held gates at Pgh International and jacked the gate fees to other carriers. It was actually cheaper to drive the 4 hours to Columbus, than the 2 hr drive to Pgh.
The airline business is as dirty as professional boxing. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:05 AM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> wow! $175 for a bag that weighs 71 pounds. |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 10:38 AM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> Chuck, it's actually $200 or $210 when you consider the base fee of $25 for your first bag and $35 for your second. |
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 10:58 AM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> I can not take the credit, but we could double it up |
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Rich Pilling, Photographer
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New York | NY | U.S.A. | Posted: 12:54 PM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> Do they still charge for your first two bags if you are a Silver, Gold or Platinum member of another Star Alliance airline? |
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Rich Pilling, Photographer
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 1:00 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Rich,
Star Alliance exempts certain bag fees for Star Gold flyers throughout the alliance. |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 2:01 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> I just received this email from a manager at US Airways; since it was a private email, I can't identify the guy... but for the sake of balance, here's what he said:
"Just an FYI, United is changing their fees as well as most every airline in the United States so get used to it. (!)
The heavier planes are, the more fuel they burn which obviously costs more. People complain about baggage fees but ticket prices are at an all time low system wide. Airlines have moved to a pay-for-what-you-want system. You can say Southwest doesn't but their prices are built into ticket prices and are more frequently more expensive than the legacy carriers. I constantly see on a daily basis passengers who paid less than $100 for their tickets." |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 3:43 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Phil,
Other airlines are watching how it impacts at US Airways. If it goes well, they follow ... if it does not go well, they won't follow through.
This is how airlines end up in fare wars as well on routes. They sit back and watch other airline fares and adjust up or down, within a certain reason. |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 4:48 PM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> My question is, when is enough, enough? |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 4:52 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Matthew
When is enough ... enough? That is a common question within the airline industry. How far will the market allow this to go and the line between legacy airlines and low cost carriers has already blurred.
The carriers show huge revenue from ancillary fees, but now face fleet modernization costs since most have no upgraded large portions of their fleet due to bankruptcy issues, as well as infrastructure upgrades that need to happen. Where does the money come from? Lets start with baggage. |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 5:58 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Phil's unidentified guy said,
"I constantly see on a daily basis passengers who paid less than $100 for their tickets"
He's lying. That's standard airline bs. They're making money hand over fist and having a great time screwing the public out of every nickel and dime that they can.
They're all taking their cues from that enemy of the traveling public, Michael O'Leary from Ryanair. He's the guy that wants to charge you to use the toilet (in flight) and has tried to order planes with, believe it or not, standing positions for passengers.
Face it. Aside from a few good ones (Southwest, Virgin Atlantic) all airlines pretty much suck.
It all started with airline deregulation in 1978. |
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Michael Chansley, Photographer, Assistant
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Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:08 PM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> Just wait until they start charging more for overweight people. |
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Steve Violette, Photographer
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Gulf Breeze | FL | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Matthew,
Enough is enough when you no longer value the service provided. Others are upset on airlines "having a great time screwing the public". Well there are alternative methods of travel, so the question becomes what is the value to someone to use their service. Many times now I drive instead of fly for these reasons. It takes more of my time, bit what is the time value of money or the values of your time........ That is for each individual to decide
The airlines are owned -generally- by share holders and they are charged with getting the most value for their shareholders. So they must cover costs and increase the minimal profits to remain viable. so if someone wants to travel with multiple suitcases with more than 70 pounds of stuff in each one, they should be charged more - otherwise each passenger will be charged more incrementally to cover the added costs for fuel and back treatments for the baggage handlers
Steve |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 7:52 PM on 02.10.11 |
->> Phil,
With limited exceptions, there are few fares under $100 (each way, virtually none round trip) in the U.S. The exception is with limited fare sales, such as JetBlue's $10 fares.
I know that fares I paid an average of $391 for this time last year are now running an average $527.
Yes, there are the odd sub-$100 fares, and on the sale of things there are thousands of those fares daily, but they make up a very small percentage of the actual fares on flights at this time.
As for the money airlines are earning, lets look at this from a difference perspective.
United Airlines earns an average of 13.4¢ per revenue seat mile, this puts them ahead of their primary rival Delta. Delta presently earns an average of 12.6¢ per revenue seat mile. However the airline with no baggage fees (for the first two bags) and has no change fees, Southwest Airlines is earning an average of 14.5¢ per revenue seat mile.
If you break out the current revenue percent for airlines, Delta Air Lines, who leads the pack in dollars earned in ancillary revenue for the past few quarters, only 8.3% of is operating revenue is generated from these fees.
On the other hand, Spirit Airlines (the only airline I'd possibly say is worse than Ryanair) is pulling in an amazing 24.2% of its operating revenue from ancillary fees (oh...and they charge for carry on bags!) |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 9:12 PM on 02.10.11 |
| ->> Seven! |
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