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7" or 11" Reflector for Bounced Strobes
Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 10:20 AM on 02.02.11 |
| ->> Quick question: I don't traditionally strobe basketball games as the D3s is pretty good in most schools, but I want to "play" a little and challenge myself. I'll be using two AB1600s bounced off the gym ceiling. The strobes by will be roughly 20' from the ceiling which is probably about 35-40' over the gym floor. I have the traditionally AB 7" reflectors, but also have two 11" sport reflectors that I bought a year ago and haven't used yet. My question is which I would be better off with. The 11" will throw more light, but it will be focused thusly not lighting as wide of a section of the floor (?). I know in a fixed setup in say an arena the 11" would probably be better, but wasn't sure about in this bounced application. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 10:52 AM on 02.02.11 |
->> I have always used the 11" when bouncing in high school gyms with my b800s. I started with the high output round ones then more recently moved to the new long throw reflectors (ltr). I like the improvements over the old ones and even though I still have them I use them more for other types of work now along with the 7". Hope that helps.
In all, it is entirely dependent on your gym. The more focused light worked much better in my case but it may not work for your set up. |
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Matt Cashore, Photographer
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South Bend | IN | USA | Posted: 10:56 AM on 02.02.11 |
| ->> There may be some math that can answer this better, but when I have to do a bounce in a large room, my thinking is always to get the light to the bounce surface as efficiently as possible. The less you spill, the more that's left to bounce back onto what you actually want to light. The 11" reflector isn't going to focus the light that tightly in the grand scheme of things. If you have the time, bring both sets of reflectors and see for yourself what, if any, difference there is. |
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
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Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 11:23 AM on 02.02.11 |
->> I've been using Buff's new 8.5" High Output Reflector. http://www.alienbees.com/85hor.html
Seem to do a pretty good job, easier to pack than the 11", works both bounce/direct. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 1:10 PM on 02.02.11 |
->> Thanks guys. I won't have a lot of time for setup, but I'll have both sets of reflectors with me so maybe I can do a quick test.
David, I see in your flashes you have a burst of light at about mid-court (something clamped to the railing and not very high). What is your purpose for that light? It doesn't appear to be one of your ABs. |
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Ron Manfredi, Photographer
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Merrick (Long Island) | NY | | Posted: 1:15 PM on 02.02.11 |
->> David,
Looks like nice even light. Where do you have the ABs positioned in the gym? |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 1:26 PM on 02.02.11 |
| ->> David, Where are your B800s? They appear to be pointed toward the far wall, not bounced, but the lighting is not harsh. Do you shoot from the end we see in the photo, or from camera position of the gym photo? |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 2:02 PM on 02.02.11 |
->> Dave B,
Im emailing you back with a more in depth look at the set up. Dont worry.
I shoot from the lit wall side. I took that photo to show the evenness of the light.
Ron,
The AB's are positioned with one at mid court on Camera Left, and about 1/4 court- close to the free throw line camera right of this photo.
http://turfimage.zenfolio.com/archives/10hs-basketball/khsvsbhs-f/e1777a026...
Randy,
I dont see the light that you are refering to, could you throw me a link to the photo in question? or point it out more easily? |
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Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 3:11 PM on 02.02.11 |
->> Dave,
In your gallery photo numbers 19, 20, 74, 82 all show a flash/strobe burst in the background. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 3:18 PM on 02.02.11 |
->> Randy,
Gotcha. Believe it or not, that IS a b800. It has the 11" LTR on it as well as a bit of cardboard to cut down on the amount of spill onto the court. It has taken some play on that side of the court to figure out how to minimize that but I think I have figured it out. It has to be placed a bit higher (in said photos it is around the 3rd row on a railing) but I have moved it up around 2 more rows and it cuts down on that.
see the last game I shot:
http://Turfimage.zenfolio.com/archives/10hs-basketball/khsvsphs-v
http://Turfimage.zenfolio.com/archives/10hs-basketball/khslvsphsl-v
This gym is kinda wacky, and thus I am working on a permanent solution to the strobe issue. |
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