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eos 7d question
Sue Ogrocki, Photographer
Oklahoma City | OK | USA | Posted: 4:09 PM on 12.12.10
->> is anyone else unlucky enough to be using a canon 7d?
Is there any way to get the little AF point to show up in red instead of in black?
thanks,
Sue Ogrocki
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Tom Suarez, Photographer
Austin | texas | USA | Posted: 4:50 PM on 12.12.10
->> I have been shooting with a 7D since they came out and my focus points do light up in red. May be something is set wrong.
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Sue Ogrocki, Photographer
Oklahoma City | OK | USA | Posted: 6:48 PM on 12.12.10
->> yeah, pretty sure something is set wrong, just not sure what. read the manual and thought it was custom function group three, number 8, but that doesn't seem to do it.
the only time they are red is when I am in the menu when I am changing them.
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 8:02 PM on 12.12.10
->> These posts suggest that you only get red AF points with one-shot and AI focus, and that in Servo mode you'll get a black AF point:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=37035326
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=36684884

Is that what's happening with you? I don't have a 7D yet but I watch threads like this before I buy one... are you having other problems with it?
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Sue Ogrocki, Photographer
Oklahoma City | OK | USA | Posted: 12:41 AM on 12.13.10
->> thanks Curtis, looks like I will not be able to get the "red dot" which isn't really good, because I find it hard to notice the black one, and keep it on the area I want to be in focus.
using the 7D is not my choice. It is the camera that was assigned to me by my company. I would not buy one. It doesn't focus well, and when it does, the quality of the pictures is just off. it has a really big file size, but what good is a big file size if the picture isn't good?
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 1:55 AM on 12.13.10
->> I can't help you with the red focus point problem, but in terms of your soft images, I have seen a parade of Canon product in my workshops coming up soft. And it seems it's the more recent models, most noticeably the Mark IV and the 7D. I have seen 2 5D MKIIs producing soft images also. It seems these bodies need to have the lenses calibrated for that specific body. All students reported back afterward that after they sent the bodies in for calibration (you have to send your lens and the body) the focus was needle sharp. I know these things to be true because my students complained to me during the workshop, I tried to get a sharp image and could not. I tried mirror-lock, double checking the tripod for stability, no wind, even using a cable release, checking the IS to "off" for tripod use, and focus about 1/2 mile distant... even using f/7+, focus on AF was off. Manual focus produced better results than the AF. It's not surprising we're seeing this; the issue of calibrating lenses is not a new one, but it's only been so noticeable since average resolutions have increased to 16megs+.

Strange, however, I have not seen any Nikon product with this problem. Students with D3s and D700s, and even D300s and D70s don't seem to have this problem. Indeed, the D3 I used once was UBER sharp.

If you can't be without your gear for the time it takes to send it to Canon, buy a lens calibration doo-hickey:
http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-cb-spyderlenscal.php

Or, here's a way to do it using a thermometer for free:
http://tinyurl.com/oml25u

Take a deep breath and don't give up on the 7D yet. I know, you shouldn't have to do this, I agree, but once it's calibrated you'll have totally neat-o images. It's a great camera!
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Randy Sartin, Photographer, Assistant
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 10:47 PM on 12.13.10
->> I've been a big 7D fan all year, but have been having quite a few (what I thought were) "the stupid thing missed focus" issues over the past few weeks or so...bad enough that I took another primary camera to use at my last basketball tournament.

Did the lens calibration stuff today, and think I'm in love again (worked good catching the kids sledding, still need to shoot some basketball with it).
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Salisbury | NC | USA | Posted: 1:45 PM on 12.14.10
->> I can't begin to describe how much it pisses me off that gear that should work right out of the box has to be sent to the manuracturer to make it function properly. Not only do I have to take all my gear out of service and send it to Canon -- and, judging from some recent threads, it could very well come back in as bad or worse shape than it was when it left -- but I have to send the bodies BACK in again whenever I add a new lens.

There is no other area I can think of in which consumers would not only tolerate this but continue to buy that manufacturers' products! If I bought a car ... an appliance ... some electronic device ... even a simple tool, and I was told I had to send it in to the manufacturer to make it work, I'd imnmediately return it and find another product.

My 7D is a perfect example of this Canon problem. The images it produces are soft to begin with, even with maximum in-camera sharpening. But attach my 70-200 f/2.8 IS and you'll be lucky to get 1 in 10 usable images. Just horrible quality at all ranges. Put the same lens on my Mark IV and you'll get 8 or 9 of 10.

Given the QC issues we've seen in the Mark III, the 5Ds, a number of lenses, and now the 7D, I am convinced this need for calibration is another QC issue. And it's just like Canon to deny there is a problem.

I can see a merry Canon Christmas morning now:
"Wow! Santa brought me a new camera!"
"Don't get too excited, Tommy. We need to ship it back to the North Pole for a few weeks so the elves can calibrate it."
"@#$%^&!"
"Tommy! Where did you learn to talk like that?"
"Billy. He got a Canon last year."
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 1:31 AM on 12.15.10
->> Hi Sue,

FYI, I just read on dpreview.com that the 7D has no illuminated focus point at all.

see "cons" at
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos7d/page30.asp
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John Cowpland, Photographer
Napier | HB | New Zealand | Posted: 4:52 AM on 12.16.10
->> I bought my second 7d and finally put all my mark 2's to rest! Out of the box both have worked great. AF is spot on and the files are brilliant.

Sue, You say the file is "off" do you out of focus or just poor quality?

There are a bunch of threads on here with plenty of suggestions for setting up your 7d to get the best out of it. I followed most of the settings mentioned but changed a few to suit the way I shoot.

Heres a bunch of football ( soccer for you non English speakers!) shot on two bodies over the weekend.

http://tiny.cc/fxk9j
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Kurt Rivers, Photographer
Ormond Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 8:35 PM on 06.14.11
->> Sorry for bringing up an old thread for my first post but the 7D does have red focus points in ai-servo... sort of.

In the custom controls menu you can select the AF-ON and * buttons to activate AF and you also have the choice between registered AF point and manually selected AF point for each of these buttons when you press INFO in the menu with the AF option highlighted.

The manual option means the normal AF point, the one that you can set to be moved with the joystick or whatever method you prefer.

The registered option is set by moving the manual AF point to the point you like then holding the + zoom / AF selection button then tap the light button (by the iso button).

So when ever you press the button for the registered AF point it will use this preprogrammed point. When it does this, the registered point will blink red when you hit and release the button.

You can also cancel the registered AF point by holding the + zoom / AF selection button then tap the ISO button.

The registered point can be different for landscape and both portrait positions. In a way, it gives the camera 6 different points, 2 for each position.

I hope this makes sense and helps!
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