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San Disk 32gb compact flash cards
 
Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 11:02 AM on 11.14.10 |
->> Just wondering if anyone has used them (for a Nikon D3/s, if it matters)
Thoughts? Do you stay away from the big cards?
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Salisbury | NC | USA | Posted: 12:46 PM on 11.14.10 |
| ->> My mentor taught me to change cards often, in case one goes bad. So unless I'm shooting hundreds of RAW files in a short amount of time and need a ton of space, I use smaller cards. |
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Matthew Hinton, Photographer, Assistant
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New Orleans | LA | USA | Posted: 1:32 PM on 11.14.10 |
->> Some of the older cards of various brands that are slower than 200x or 30mb/s may have compatibility issues with the new Nikon cameras.
I've used the Sandisk 60mb/s or 400x 32 and 16gb cards for several months with no problems.
But the size of the card has nothing to do with reliability or speed. Plus with the two slots on the D3s you can have one card that you use and a second card in the second slot that duplicates in case the other card fails.
If you shoot football or other sports with runners picking up cards a lot during each quarter or after a big play you'd probably want smaller cards because you can buy more of them.
But most cards are big enough that nobody shoots on two cards for each and every assignment, except in these special circumstances. So having smaller cards won't help. Besides if it fails it won't matter how big the card is if "the image" is on the card you want.
If you shoot video you'll need bigger cards, but there is a built in limit of like 2 GB per video file supposedly on the D3s so about 5 minute of video.
But every card will eventually fail at some point over time, some will fail temporarily because of high humidity or getting moist from temperature changes from going in and out of a building or car into the outside air. But when the dry out they often start working again.
That's why it's important to have some type of image rescue software preferably on a PC computer because of the better compatibility with the Fat 32 file formant in case a card does fail. |
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Matthew Hinton, Photographer, Assistant
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New Orleans | LA | USA | Posted: 2:34 PM on 11.14.10 |
->> Again to make clearer the post reads slower than 200x 30mb/s. I've had no issues with 200x or 30mb/s cards except they are slow when copying 16gb or 32gb.
But I had an issue with a 133x card not working on my D700, similar to the D3, but it worked fine on older Nikon cameras.
I also saw comments from other people that had a issue with the 133x card too. But it could be that brand or a firmware issue with that particular camera but to be safe buy a faster card. |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 4:02 PM on 11.14.10 |
| ->> I have used several larger Sandisk cards (16GB-32GB) that I've used without any problems. I've used 16GB cards (starting with the Extreme III) for several years without any problems and recently purchased a 32GB, which has been trouble free so far. Knock on wood. I have a few 8GB cards I use if my larger cards get filled up, which rarely happens. While this may not apply for SanDisk, when buying new large and faster cards, make sure that you buy cards that have single layer cell (SLC) technology as opposed to multi-layer cell technology (MLC). MLC cards are cheaper and have comparably higher capacities, but are less reliable and durable. Here is link to a white paper comparing the two: (http://www.supertalent.com/datasheets/SLC_vs_MLC%20whitepaper.pdf). I hope this helps. |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 5:17 PM on 11.14.10 |
| ->> I am still using 4GB cards :( It gives me around 160 Raw files on my Nikon D3s. |
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Matthew Hinton, Photographer, Assistant
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New Orleans | LA | USA | Posted: 9:51 AM on 11.15.10 |
->> Extreme III or Ultra etc. and other brands by Sandisk can make things confusing.
Look for the mb/s or X speed not the model name. I recently bought some Sandisk Ultra 4gb cards for football games when runners are used that are 30mb/s or 200x. These are the same speed as some Extreme III cards that are also 30mb/s.
A few years ago the Ultra cards were 15mb/s. So look on the front of the card for the speed ratings not the model name. Extreme cards supposedly have better weather resistance and can take more "extremes" in temperature though.
In case you are wondering 150kb/s equals 1x. So 30mb/s or 30,000kb/s equals 200x, 60mb/s or 60,000kb/s equals 400x, etc. |
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 11:21 AM on 11.15.10 |
->> I've never used anything larger than 16GB...although I just ordered a 64GB SDXC card (UHS-1) in anticipation of the arrival of my D7000. Holy smokes, batman...a lot of images to lose on a flimsy little SD card!
Bigger file sizes are making them a necessity, though. I've found that a single 16GB CF card is not enough for an entire football game in my D300s shooting RAW. Not by much...but I end up changing cards in the 4Q. |
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Travis Haughton, Photographer
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Crystal Lake | IL | USA | Posted: 11:59 AM on 11.15.10 |
->> Debra,
I have two Sandisk 32GB cards in each D3. Four cards total. One camera has the 30mb/s cards and the other has 60mb/s. You get another image or two in a burst and the cache clears quicker on the faster cards. Shouldn't be an issue on the D3s though. It's got a much larger buffer than the original D3.
I write raw files to each card slot so I have an immediate backup in case one card has an issue. Shooting bigger cards means I don't lose an entire card during a switch and I don't miss anything because I was busy switching cards.
So as long as I can keep track of my cameras, my images are safe. |
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