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Small town rivals- documentary photo series with audio.
Jimmy Hickey, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 11.07.10 |
->> Hi everyone, I recently completed a photo series capturing the game between two small town rivals. Sequim and Port Angelas. This was my first time really doing any audio recording at an event and assembling it like this. I would really appreciate to hear some feedback and constructive criticism from anyone. I intend to continue with this style of event coverage and hope to create some really strong stuff in the process. One thing I loved about shooting this HS game, as Ely would say...ACCESS.
Thanks in advance, I have shared this at a few other places, but really haven't heard the constructive criticism that I am looking for and figured this would be the best place possible to share it.
[url]http://www.jimmyhickey.net/#a=0&at=0&mi=2&pt=1π;=10000&s=0&p=1[/url]
Thanks for looking! |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 12:55 PM on 11.07.10 |
| ->> Links not working |
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Jimmy Hickey, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 1:16 PM on 11.07.10 |
->> Hrmmm I see the url tags I tried to delete are still there...here is another link. When I clicked it it sent me to the home page, if this happens the project is under portfolio->Small town rivals
Lemme try again...
http://www.jimmyhickey.net/#a=0&at=0&mi=2&pt=1&pi=10000&s=0&p=1 |
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Nick Adams, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 1:37 PM on 11.07.10 |
->> Less is more - you could cut out half the photos and half the audio.
I lost interested after a while. you had some great background noise, smooth transitions. But put this piece in a soundslide program. I dislike that I have no control of what i am listening to, I had to reload to catch the name of the guy talking at the first of it. |
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Jimmy Hickey, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 9:41 PM on 11.07.10 |
->> Hrmm very interesting point Nicks, I think I need to decide which key points of the game I want to have covered with both audio and photos and mainly cover those points in the presentation using just the few strongest images to represent those points. Shortening it and having only the strongest photos/audio being shown.
Could you expand on what you mean by "having control"? Like being able to pause the audio without it entirely reloading the audio from the beginning? Or having a slider on both the sound and the image slideshow?
Thanks for your comment Nick |
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
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Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 9:57 PM on 11.07.10 |
->> "Having control" - http://www.soundslides.com
Nice images. Looks like a cool old park/stadium. |
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Chris Riley, Photographer
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Napa | CA | USA | Posted: 11:16 PM on 11.07.10 |
| ->> Nice work Jimmy. I would recommend using Soundslides, or even iMovie if you use a Mac. Our paper just started using Final Cut Xpress to incorporate video. Here is a link to Vallejo's rivalry game on Friday. The city is closing one of the high schools so it was the last football game in the schools' history. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid68308209001?bctid=663839352... |
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Guy Rhodes, Photographer
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East Chicago | IN | USA | Posted: 5:14 AM on 11.08.10 |
->> Jimmy,
I'm in agreeance with Nick on the less is more suggestion for editing this down a bit. Soundslides (or similar) with smooth transitions would have also helped the flow.
What really struck me more than anything was the audio. Within the first five seconds, there is a "boom" of what sounds like something impacting the mic, with lots more of these rumbles / clangs / rubs to follow throughout the piece. With the layer of motion removed here (as compared to a video piece) and stills carrying the weight of the piece, the audio becomes so much more prominent, and these distractions become magnified.
Whenever I'm recording sound on location, usually when I'm done with a scene or interview, I always call for silence so I can record 15 to 30 seconds of what we call "room tone", this being a clean clip of the basic white noise of the space. Sometimes this may include traffic noise, a low woosh of an air conditioning duct, whatever. Room tone is invaluable in post to have available to splice in and cover up those inevitable audio issues.
Obviously getting "room tone" at the veritable symphony of the football game would be challenging, but for each of those segments where there is an audio glitch, I'm sure you have at least a bit of each clip where the subject wasn't talking (perhaps when you started to roll or after you were done with the interview). This is also a great place in your files to grab some clean "room tone" to repair things.
I realize you may be limited by your current editing software (to be able to make frame-accurate splices and fades), but even Final Cut Express would do the trick.
I'd also work to try and get your mic off of your still camera (I'm assuming it was mounted to it?), as the shutter sounds also became a distraction after a while. |
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Jimmy Hickey, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 5:47 AM on 11.08.10 |
->> Ethan, thanks for the link, I did a bit of research and will certainly look into alternatives.
Thanks for the suggestion Chris. Very interesting story there as well, It's very thought provoking to see the schools last game in it's history, must have been an intense environment to shoot in.
Guy thanks for the suggestions as well as the very valuable advice with the audio. I need to do some more research on that field since it is so important to the overall success of the project yet it is something that I know little about. I'll look around and try to find some more info on that subject as a whole. Then I'll figure out which program is right for me and go from there.
This was recorded off camera, but was with my external mic attached to a digital recorder, so it was a difficult item to grip and hold steadily. Then at the end I was just taking photos in one hand as I recorded audio in the other and balanced my monopod on my shoulder while fighting cavities. I think a solution to that would be just have an assistant there just to help with the audio! Complex ordeal handling so many things at once, humbling how some of you guys have been doing this for years and just got it down to a science haha
Thanks again for the help everyone. |
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Tom Davenport, Photographer
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Hayden | ID | USA | Posted: 10:27 AM on 11.08.10 |
| ->> I'll tell you, I can't make it through these slide shows. Except for yours. Maybe its the fact that for me, football season is over and at least from the sidelines it is such a wonderful experience if you let it be. Maybe it is the fact that you pretty much nailed the emotion I feel when there. I thought the 41-0 should have been the ender, until I saw what else you had. Having said that, the last image doesn't do anything for me, but I think I understand why you used it. I'm moving away from the less is more general philosophy, and this presentation is an example of why. I imagine your audience will be glued to every second. |
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Jeff Stinson, Photographer
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Carlisle | PA | USA | Posted: 10:42 PM on 11.09.10 |
| ->> Great work as always Jimmy |
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