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Ohio High School Athletic Association flash policy
Mike Ullery, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Piqua | OH | USA | Posted: 10:40 AM on 10.28.10 |
->> I don't know if this has been addressed yet.
In August, the Ohio High School Athletic Association issued their latest update for use of flash/strobe lighting at Ohio high school events.
There are no huge changes but this is more sport-specific than the previous policy.
I would suggest that Ohio shooters print this and keep a copy in your camera bag. Most school officials are pretty good in this area but it is occasionally necessary to "enlighten" an AD or official.
http://www.ohsaa.org/news/media/PhotographyRegulations.pdf |
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G.M. Andrews, Photographer
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Mobile | AL | USA | Posted: 12:58 PM on 10.28.10 |
->> Mike, according to the pdf;
"Flash Photography
Note that flash photography – which includes both strobe lights and flashes mounted to cameras – is permitted
except in the following situations:
Basketball – Not permitted in the free throw lane area along the baseline."
I read this to mean you can't shoot strobe while the action is under the basket, or in basketball vernacular, "in the paint". Or did I read this wrong?
I've had refs tell me this before in games I've covered down south. |
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Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 1:02 PM on 10.28.10 |
| ->> I would understand this to mean that you (photographer) can't be within the free throw lane area with flash. So you can't be along the baseline, out of bounds directly under the basket shooting with flash. This would cause the flash to be pretty directly in the players face. |
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John Howley, Photographer
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Circleville | OH | USA | Posted: 4:14 PM on 10.28.10 |
| ->> Randy has it. You can use flash along the baseline but are not supposed to be in the paint area. |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 5:11 PM on 10.28.10 |
->> This "standard" was in the volleyball section:
"...minimum lighting standards of 1600 ASA (film speed) at 500th of a second at an aperture of f2.8 ..."
Do most Ohio gyms meet this? I assume gyms for "tournament contests" do meet, or exceed, this? Must be nice. |
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David Richard, Photographer
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Cleveland | OH | USA | Posted: 5:46 PM on 10.28.10 |
->> Dave, a lot of gyms in Northern Ohio do not meet this light requirement but I would not even begin to try to convince those in charge during a contest that I need to use a strobe.
I have talked to several ADs and they have no clue about these guidelines. I'm also guessing that parents and coaches would throw a fit if you could convince the officials because everyone is programmed that no flash is allowed. Delaying the game while you argue your point is just not worth it in my eyes - especially with the newer cameras.
In my area at least, yes, tournament gyms are well-lit.
I've had a couple of instances of problems with the flash policy during basketball but thankfully for all involved - those tournament directors were familiar with the strobe guidelines and resolved the problems with their staff immediately.
I do carry the policy with me at all times. |
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Smiley Pool, Photographer
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 8:25 PM on 10.28.10 |
| ->> Wow. There is a state that actually has a written policy and knows what a light meter is? |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 9:42 PM on 10.28.10 |
->> LOL Smiley. There is, but the ADs, parents and officials don't know what it means.
It's at least a start. |
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Mike Ullery, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Piqua | OH | USA | Posted: 9:04 AM on 10.29.10 |
->> It is a start. I have to give the OHSAA credit for trying to put a policy out there to work with.
I agree on the volleyball lighting. I know that most gyms won't meet that standard but trying to convince vb officials is not worth the effort. |
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John Germ, Photographer
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Wadsworth | Oh | USA | Posted: 9:29 AM on 10.29.10 |
| ->> Of the dozen or so gyms I've shot in in NE Ohio I'd say most are a full stop below that: f2.8 1/400 and ISO 3200 is fairly average lighting. Flash / strobes have been fairly accepted here for basketball and wrestling but still frowned upon for volleyball - and like others, I've never pushed the issue. |
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Jason Jump, Photographer
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Humble | TX | USA | Posted: 10:22 AM on 10.29.10 |
->> I would be more than happy to shoot at ISO 3200 2.8 and 400 :-).
Most of the gyms I have to shoot in are in the 5000/6400 ISO range and some that's really not enough. |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 1:00 PM on 10.29.10 |
->> I have shot in gyms in Ohio and here in Indiana. The majority do not meet the guidelines discussed in the previous post, ISO 1600, 500, 2.8. Most are as Jason indicated, 5000/6400 or even beyond. If we could all afford D3s bodies, flash wouldn't be an issue. Sigh ....
One of the schools here upgraded its lights and redid the gym floor surface which has made a huge difference. Another school corp. is building a new school and apparently the lights are supposed to be excellent, according to one school board member. We'll see. |
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Geoff Miller, Photographer
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Portage | MI | USA | Posted: 1:12 PM on 10.29.10 |
->> "Basketball – Not permitted in the free throw lane area along the baseline."
I would interpret that to mean that you can't use a camera mounted flash if you're shooting along the baseline between the boundaries of the free throw lane. This makes sense as it would effectively eliminate the chances of a player that's driving towards the basket from getting flashed directly in the face. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 3:15 PM on 10.29.10 |
->> "Wow. There is a state that actually has a written policy and knows what a light meter is?"
Smiley, here in Illinois we've had sport specific media strobe and flash policies for at least the last five years. In my immediate coverage area there are 26 high schools. The ADs as well as the referees who work this area are all familiar with the strobe policy and work with photographers if there is a problem. |
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David Dermer, Photographer
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Cortland | Oh | 44410 | Posted: 5:34 PM on 10.30.10 |
->> as long as your not sitting in the paint (with a flash) for basketball you should be good.
its always a good idea to talk to the officals and make sure its not a problem. they usually have no problem.
the coaches can tell the officials to have you turn off your flash if he feels it is distracting to his team. (it has happened to me a few times)
Volleyball you need to speak with the officals and the ad to avoid problem.
I ahve spoken with coaches and they are very opposed to flash and will have the officials talk to you if you dont speak to them before.
those are the ways i try to avoid problems, but in true high school sports fashion.. they dont always work for everyone. |
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