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The 10 American Industries That May Never Recover
David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 7:23 PM on 09.16.10 |
| ->> I disagree. Newspapers aren't dying/dead, they are evolving like many other industries.. It was time for them to update how they do things, but they are not dead. |
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 7:34 PM on 09.16.10 |
| ->> David, all those Unemployed Newspaper employees would disagree with that statement.... |
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D. Ross Cameron, Photographer
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Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 7:41 PM on 09.16.10 |
->> It'll be interesting to see, won't it, what Yahoo News and Google News post on their respective sites when there are no more newspapers to feed their respective beasts. Infomercials, perhaps?
When are people going to wake up and realize that it takes actual, trained journalists to report the news?
Of course, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public...
Still hanging in there,
DRC |
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PJ Heller, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 8:58 PM on 09.16.10 |
->> ->> It'll be interesting to see, won't it, what Yahoo News and Google News post on their respective sites when there are no more newspapers to feed their respective beasts. Infomercials, perhaps?
And in this corner: http://tinyurl.com/2fd7xj6 |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 10:03 PM on 09.16.10 |
->> David, no disrespect but once you graduate and see firsthand how different the market is from 10 or even 5 years ago for a recent grad, you might want to reevaluate that evolution.
Evolution I would define as a step forward, perhaps being able to offer the same quality content with a few less staff due to more efficient use of technology, or better yet, improving the quality of content overall.
When you see 70% of a photo staff all let go in one day, thats not evolution.
When you see reporters handed a camera and told to take pictures or request for citizen journalist to submit photos and the results are what you'd expect, thats not evolution either.
The need for news certainly isn't dead no, but, the dream of getting out of school and going to work for the major daily or periodical, making it your career, earning a good wage you can support a family on and not having to worry all the time about job security is pretty much dead and buried. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:13 AM on 09.17.10 |
| ->> Jeff, I totally agree. Anyone who buys the bullshit photojournalism schools are peddling to "wide eyed and bushy tailed" students to spend the twenty grand a year tuition thinking they might get to enter the "fast paced and exciting world of photojournalism" should really consider just investing that money in lottery tickets. there is most probably a better chance of them winning the lottery than actually getting a job in this field. better yet, I have a suggestion....any student or anyone THINKING about trying to get a degree from these schools...here's what you do....be blunt...ASK and DEMAND statistics of how many graduates of said program you're applying for actually was GAINFULLY employed after receiving their degree. GAINFULLY EMPLOYED in the field they received their degree in. it's the not so dirty little secret. folks have to remember these people running programs at the schools will say and do anything to keep their jobs....that means misleading ill informed students to sign up for a program that is basically flooded with a talent pool they can NEVER overcome. I mean really, who you going to hire for the same salary if you're a DOP at a paper? someone out of work with ten years of experience who is willing to work for the love of what we do or a student fresh out of college who hasn't a clue of how the real world works. welcome to 2010. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 12:41 AM on 09.17.10 |
->> Yamil and Jeff,
I am not a photojournalism student. Nor do I plan to be. But I think the way that media is changing, print media may not disappear like it all seems to be. Even if print media did fall to the wayside, I believe that the call for photographers will still be there. Maybe I am over expecting, but who knows. |
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Lane Hickenbottom, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | usa | Posted: 1:23 AM on 09.17.10 |
->> "the call for photographers"???
What call for photographers? |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:26 AM on 09.17.10 |
->> David, sure there will always be a call for photographs and photographers to go along with them. As technology advances who knows if those will more often than not be just frame grabs or whatever fancy tech comes down the pipeline, but yes,there will be a call for photos and naturally someone needs to produce them.
The point I think your overlooking though is if someone can make a viable living producing those photos in the future. If people can't have a reasonable expectation of making a living wage doing it as a career choice then its a dead or dying industry in my book.
Lets look at the job of the traditional secretary who used to have to know how to operate a typewriter and type up letters and things of that nature because the 1950's male executive type sure wouldn't be expected to do that sort of thing himself. My grandmother, great aunt and aunt all worked in the secretarial pools for a couple of large corporations, just fyi.
Well the need for correspondence certainly hasn't disappeared but the job of the secretary sure has. A lot of women used to get out of school and plan for doing that very role as their career. There are a few around of course, but as a whole, how many firms have people on staff simply to type up documents ? Not many, instead nearly every employee from the top down has a personal computer and they handle their own typing and similar needs.
The need hasn't really changed but that industry is dead. I know its probably not the best analogy but I think it still works.
At the end of the day its not about if people still want to see photos, its about if I can keep a roof over my head producing those photos just as for a trained secretary its not about if people still want documents typed,its about if they can actually expect to find a position doing it. |
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:28 AM on 09.17.10 |
->> Lane, there is still a big call for photographers. I get calls for a photographer everyday.
What I don't get a lot of anymore is a response when I inform that potential client that I actually expect to get paid for my work. |
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