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Boring Storage Question...
Stan Godlewski, Photographer
North Haven | CT | United States | Posted: 12:10 PM on 08.20.10
->> Archiving individual clients on individual external hard drives...no more than 250 gig each at most. Is there a reliability issue regarding desktop vs portable? Speed is not really an issue, I just want the stuff there if I need it. Thanks.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 1:03 PM on 08.20.10
->> There is no reliability difference. Internal or external the drive will fail at some point.

Make sure you have redundancy either in multiple copies or a RAID or Drobo system.
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Stan Godlewski, Photographer
North Haven | CT | United States | Posted: 2:20 PM on 08.20.10
->> Sorry...talking about external only....desktop or portable....
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington/Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 4:23 PM on 08.20.10
->> What George said still applies. Redundancy is your best friend. Offsite redundancy is even better.
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 5:24 PM on 08.20.10
->> 1 out of 1 hard drives dies... Which one is faster is just thermodynamics :)
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Francis Specker, Photographer
Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 5:28 PM on 08.20.10
->> Heat is a factor in dead hard drives. That and dropping them. Get something with a fan.
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Rockford | IL | United States | Posted: 7:02 PM on 08.20.10
->> Heat is not as much of a factor as you might think. At least not according to a study Google did on their hard drive failures. Neither is heavy read/writing.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/18/massive-google-hard-drive-survey-turns-u.../
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Chris Wilson, Student/Intern
Bowling Green | Ky. | US | Posted: 7:11 PM on 08.20.10
->> Yep, the only thing better about the bigger "desktop" hard drives are that they are faster and they have more space (usually) than portables. I have two of each.
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 11:10 PM on 08.20.10
->> Chase Jarvis has a good video on his back up strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-6EQo6it7Y
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 11:24 PM on 08.20.10
->> One thing to keep in mind about "desktop" drives is that they draw their power from the computer's power supply. As a general rule, the ps in most computers is more reliable and stable than the 'wall warts' that come with external drives.
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 11:02 AM on 08.21.10
->> +1 for George.
I have so man backups it is silly. And, with the value of the "slower" CF cards, I have started saving backwards to a few 16G and 8G cards for the images I really don't want to lose. I figure it is good to have the important stuff on something that isn't spinning media.
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 2:04 PM on 08.21.10
->> Bear two things in mind on this topic.

1) Storage is not archiving. If you don't have multiple copies of your files in multiple locations then your files are not safe. Having your files in a single Drobo on your desk does you no good if your office burns down. If you have two Drobos, one in your office and one off site then you are archived.

2) Mechanical failure is the killer on hard drives. If you don't have to have all your files online 24/7 then turn your drives off. Less wear means less chance of failure. I have removable drive bays for my archive drives and I do not have them spinning unless I need to access them. External drive bays work well too. If you have to have your archive constantly online then run a commercial grade RAID array for the inevitable drive failure but as above, have an additional set of drives stored somewhere else for when your office is wiped out in the upcoming disaster.
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 4:13 PM on 08.21.10
->> On #2 - There's a lot of data that shows it's the turning off/on that does the damage (if a steamroller is not involved) - for an example of this see Google's hard drive research.
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Johnny Vy, Photographer, Photo Editor
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 5:57 PM on 08.22.10
->> If you've got a Mac, the Time Machine is great. I usually back up everything on Time Machine as soon as I upload, and once again after all my edits are made. I also back up individual folders (or bunches of them to save DVDs) on DVDs, which I keep in an organized folder. That way, when my hard drives eventually fail, I will have a disc of my images somewhere else.
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