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Sports shooter FaceBook page.
Kay in t Veen, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Rotterdam | ZH | Netherlands | Posted: 5:12 AM on 07.29.10 |
->> I noticed their aren't good facebook groups and sportshooter.com hasen't got its own group.
sinces i'm pretty active in social media i tried to do a little favor for the community by creating one
Feel free to join
http://www.facebook.com/pages/SportsShootercom/142662432418318 |
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Ron Hawkes, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 9:07 AM on 07.29.10 |
| ->> Personally, I'd clear that with Bert before using their name and logo on Facebook. But that's just me. |
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 9:22 AM on 07.29.10 |
| ->> Cant you just give credit? ;) |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:10 AM on 07.29.10 |
| ->> Jamey, that is priceless!! |
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Bob Ford, Photographer
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Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 10:39 AM on 07.29.10 |
| ->> I agree with Bryan, I probably would have checked with the owners first. |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:47 PM on 07.29.10 |
->> geez, who was the tool who gave jamey the IA?
I have an idea....go to Home Depot and buy yourself a sense of humor. |
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Scott Evans, Photographer
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Bay Village | OH | USA | Posted: 4:59 PM on 07.29.10 |
->> Chuck, I get it...tool...Home Depot, that's funny!
Jamey, I think your suggestion was brilliant! |
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 9:09 PM on 07.29.10 |
->> After all the discussion on this site about ownership rights and the use of social networking, I can't believe this topic hasn't heated up.
Here is how this plays out. I know because it happened to me, and I've seen the pattern elsewhere.
Someone innocently starts such a Facebook page on behalf of another entity. In this case, Sportsshooter.com.
People start inviting others to join that aren't a part of SS.com. Because it isn't part of SS.com or moderated by SS.com, it doesn't really represent this site or follow the same rules of moderation, but has the same name and even uses the logo.
Skip ahead a few weeks/months, someone goes way beyond what is considered appropriate for Sportsshooter members on the Facebook page. Original owners are upset the Facebook site doesn't represent what they have worked so hard for over the years. But the owners have no control over the Facebook page, unless they are granted admin access by the creator of that page. However, if they really wanted admin access to a Facebook page, they would have created it themselves.
So, in the end, either the page has to be deleted, or it becomes a rouge page, which is even more upsetting to the original owners.
This has happened to me and was started by senior high school students with good intentions that were clients and it quickly turned crazy. And some vulgarity and photos posted by people I don't know caused damage to my reputation because people (parents) that saw the site thought it was affiliated with my business.
So, can someone please explain why it is appropriate to create a social networking page, on behalf of a business that didn't ask for it, using that businesses logo and reputation?
Note that the second link (posted by Ron) has a disclaimer right at the top showing how it isn't affiliated with the original. And they don't use the SS.com logo. |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 9:49 PM on 07.29.10 |
->> @Bryan, there is no metion on Ron's link of it not being affiliated with SS.com
i understand what you;re saying, but i humbly believe a mountain is being made out of a molehill...
or however that cliche saying goes.
It's the same thing as if a guy wearing a SS.com branded shirt or hat robs a bank. "oh noes! SS.com are all bank robbers" and then the FBI will shut the site down under the pretenses of it being a portal for a massive bank robbing organizations. etc, etc.
of course that's a bit over the top.
seriously, though. if the 'oweners' are not happy with it, they will notify the appropriate parties and send a cease/ desist order. |
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Gavin Werbeloff, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 9:57 PM on 07.29.10 |
| ->> I started a Sportsshooter facebook years ago. I was busy all day and couldn't understand why my phone was suddenly pinging with tons of group notifications. This explains it. Now if we could only merge the two groups. |
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Eric Canha, Photographer
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Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 11:42 PM on 07.29.10 |
->> Kent one would hope that the bank robber would have purchased his SS hat or shirt from the owner, or a licensed source, of the SS logo ;) otherwise what the FBI should be doing is helping to crack down on the TM infringement and assuming that the shirt or hat was bought across state lines maybe the FTC could hop on too........
It's only a mole hill when it's someone else's logo and labors that are being used....when it's YOUR name or mark it's freaking Mt Everest.
just sayin |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 1:47 AM on 07.30.10 |
| ->> Yeah... Regardless of the creator having the best of intentions, with trademarks the owners have to protect the trademark or lose it... I'd take it down... Unless it's not trademarked, then it doesn't matter :) |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 5:39 AM on 07.30.10 |
| ->> @ eric. thats the point i was making too...if the SS gurus want it taken down, then they'll ask. until then...im just gonna sit tight and do my best NOT to stir the pot. |
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Jeff Jones, Photo Editor
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Gallup | NM | USA | Posted: 9:51 PM on 08.03.10 |
->> Kent -
how about calling it something like Fans of Sportsshooter? Just so that you differentiate that it is not the official site... |
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Cooper Neill, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 08.03.10 |
| ->> I think one simple email would clear this whole thing up... |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 7:44 PM on 08.04.10 |
| ->> i tried to join the ss facebook page (official one I believe), have yet to be allowed :( |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 9:32 AM on 08.05.10 |
->> @jeff jones - good call. :)
@cooper - agree'd |
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