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HAD TO PUSH IT OUT
Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:35 PM on 07.22.10 |
->> ->> I think in this day and age of instant judgment via the internet we can all learn something from this. we have all grown so jaded (at least I have) over the years watching people self destruct trying to become better and better using the technology available. and often we forget there can be honest mistakes. we are after all, human. it's very easy to dog pile on someone we don't personally know. I think most of us (I include myself here) can't understand how these things happen. yes, many of the high profile scandals have ended up being serial offenders....maybe this truly was a stupid mistake. there are many professions where you can make mistakes. you can make certain mistakes in our business (who has never gotten an ID wrong?), but photo manipulation isn't one where you can find any forgiveness. are we too harsh? unfortunately I don't think so. I truly feel sorry for Mr. Feldman. but this is yet another example for those young up and coming photographers (and those of us long in the tooth). shoot the photos YOU SEE not the ones YOU WISH you had seen. I cannot even count the number of times I've had frames where if that damn ball, arm, hand, leg, head, net, bat, net, clock, car, horse, was in a slightly different place I would have had a GREAT photo. but it wasn't, it didn't happen. live with it. that is what we do. we CAPTURE moments. we don't MAKE them. I'll shuddup now.
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Michael Johnson, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Geneseo | NY | USA | Posted: 8:42 PM on 07.22.10 |
| ->> Very well put Chuck....nice job |
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Alexander Pylyshyn, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:44 PM on 07.22.10 |
->> Agreed, Chuck. My first lesson as a photojournalist was to never alter photos no matter what my intentions were. I've even run into situations working with a university's promotions department where I've been asked to clone brush certain elements of an image out to make a better image and I've either asked my employers if there was a better image to use or to explore a better solution to achieve the result they're looking for.
It's just a terrible habit to get into. Even casually. |
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
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Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 9:29 PM on 07.22.10 |
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Steve King, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Ann Arbor | MI | USA | Posted: 10:35 PM on 07.22.10 |
->> and here I thought you were dealing with a "labor" of love with that topic... oh, I see you were!
I like to say that I am here to report the news and not make it, so when you do something like your reference or the story that Alan posted it goes against what we're here for.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 1:39 AM on 07.23.10 |
| ->> I have no clue how this jumped threads.......I kinda feel violated. 8) |
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 9:07 AM on 07.23.10 |
->> This is one of those GWC v J-School issues as well. Those of us who went to J-School, or at least were taught by someone who went to J-School get it. I was always taught to roll with what was on the negative. It is what it is. Ask Chuck says, sometimes you have a bit of misfortune, or a ton of it. The photo is still the photo. I have carried this idea over with me into the digital age.
Technology makes this even tougher and I can see the trouble in defining the lines for people who have never been told. I photograph a ton of horse racing and there are a bunch of photographers who love horses who just do not think like journalists. Way too many think, "Oh, the rail is in my remote, I will just Photoshop that out." To them, no big deal. To me, big no-no.
Which now brings us back to the original thread. If the photographer were someone who migrated into photojournalism and just didn't know, well, maybe he gets some leeway on the learning curve. Maybe. But here we have an experienced photographer who clearly had the training and knows better.
Fired, period.
It just can't happen. The technology is so good right now we have enough issues with convincing people we actually made the images we did make. If people don't make a stand, no one will believe we make any of the images we do. |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 07.23.10 |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 9:40 AM on 07.23.10 |
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Andrew Carpenean, Photographer
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 1:16 PM on 07.23.10 |
->> Nice post Chuck. But the title sounds like you were pregnant.
--Mark |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 1:48 PM on 07.23.10 |
| ->> hey guys....I didn't start this post. it was pulled from the previous post. and I have no clue as to how it was posted with my name....how can you do that? |
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Jon Gardiner, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 4:55 PM on 07.23.10 |
->> Good to know because, like Gerry, I decided to pull the first clip that came to mind. Regardless, here's to getting more fiber in all our diets...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPVtnIFkBU
-J |
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