Story   Photographer   Editor   Student/Intern   Assistant   Job/Item

SportsShooter.com: The Online Resource for Sports Photography

Contents:
 Front Page
 Member Index
 Latest Headlines
 Special Features
 'Fun Pix'
 Message Board
 Educate Yourself
 Equipment Profiles
 Bookshelf
 my.SportsShooter
 Classified Ads
 Workshop
Contests:
 Monthly Clip Contest
 Annual Contest
 Rules/Info
Newsletter:
 Current Issue
 Back Issues
Members:
 Members Area
 "The Guide"
 Join
About Us:
 About SportsShooter
 Contact Us
 Terms & Conditions


Sign in:
Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features.

Name:



Password:







||
SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board

Are Cameras the New Guns?
Max Lashin, Photographer, Assistant
Fort Lauderdale | FL | United States | Posted: 1:57 PM on 07.12.10
->> Rather interesting article talking about how recording an on duty police officer is now a crime in three states

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/are-cameras-the-new-guns/#
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

John Germ, Photographer
Wadsworth | Oh | USA | Posted: 2:57 PM on 07.12.10
->> already been discussed:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=36232
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 2:58 PM on 07.12.10
->> Unfriggin' believable.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Max Lashin, Photographer, Assistant
Fort Lauderdale | FL | United States | Posted: 3:13 PM on 07.12.10
->> Thanks John

I did a search to make sure it wasn't discussed before but I must have missed the thread.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 3:53 PM on 07.12.10
->> the latest such incident:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Photographer-Detained-for-Taki...
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Will Powers, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 4:00 PM on 07.12.10
->> Is there a discount whenever someone notifies the list that there already is a thread on the subject? Just wondering. Maybe there is a thread on that subject, too.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (3) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 4:11 PM on 07.12.10
->> ironically, taser is marketing a headmounted recording device to cops to defend against misconduct claims:

http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/TASERAXON.aspx
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 4:38 PM on 07.12.10
->> At least regarding the comments relating to Maryland--it is NOT unlawful to video record an officer on duty. Just as it is not unlawful to video record anyone who is out and about and has no reasonable expectation of privacy in their actions.

In Maryland, however, it is--and has been for years--unlawful to record audio without the other party's consent.

Some of the comments in the articles are at the very least misinformed, if not wrong and misleading.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 2:34 AM on 07.13.10
->> I guess I don't understand how it is okay to have cameras recording us at every corner of the street, in highways, in police cars, buses, etc... Yet we the citizen can't record the people who are in charge?

Kinda weird to me

I don't remember giving consent to the gov't to record my every move in public
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 8:04 AM on 07.13.10
->> Matthew

The key appears to be 'audio.' Traffic cameras, security cameras, etc, do not have audio usually.

In a store there is usually some sort of sticker/warning informing people they are being taped and by entering you consent to being taped.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Aleksi Lepisto, Photographer
Sacramento | CA | United States | Posted: 8:12 AM on 07.13.10
->> Aren't police public servants? They're paid with our money, if they're in public, they should be taped.

Media, should not be controlled, not by individuals, or the government. That leads to only negative problems. It's a way to self-police society.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Max Lashin, Photographer, Assistant
Fort Lauderdale | FL | United States | Posted: 4:07 PM on 07.19.10
->> Another interesting follow up story on the actual prosecution of these sort of "crimes"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/videotaping-cops-arrest/story?id=11179076
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

James Broome, Photographer
Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 7:34 PM on 07.19.10
->> Is there audio with the motorcycle video? (none in the link from above) If not, then I don't see how it violates the wiretapping laws.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

James Broome, Photographer
Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 7:38 PM on 07.19.10
->> "In many jurisdictions, the police themselves record encounters with the public with dashboard cameras in their cars. "Police and governmental recording of citizens is becoming more pervasive and to say that government can record you but you can't record, it speaks volumes about the mentality of people in government," Rocah said. "It's supposed to be the other way around: They work for us; we don't work for them.""

So we can sue them??
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 7:56 PM on 07.19.10
->> James,

The original video did include audio.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

James Broome, Photographer
Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 8:43 PM on 07.19.10
->> Ah. Thanks for the info, Kevin.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Indiana | IN | USA | Posted: 11:45 PM on 07.19.10
->> Where the is the ACLU during all this?
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 1:10 AM on 07.20.10
->> James,

I thought that quote summed it up perfectly.

Did the cop really have to pull his gun and point it at the kid? Come on now, wtf is wrong with the police these days.

(I know general statement)
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Add your comments...
If you'd like to add your comments to this thread, use this form. You need to be an active (paying) member of SportsShooter.com in order to post messages to the system.

NOTE: If you would like to report a problem you've found within the SportsShooter.com website, please let us know via the 'Contact Us' form, which alerts us immediately. It is not guaranteed that a member of the staff will see your message board post.
Thread Title: Are Cameras the New Guns?
Thread Started By: Max Lashin
Message:
Member Login:
Password:




Return to -->
Message Board Main Index
Copyright 2023, SportsShooter.com