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AP farming out BP catastrophe coverage
Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 5:31 PM on 07.10.10 |
->> I know how I feel about this. anyone else have any thoughts......
www.journalismjobs.com/Job_Listing.cfm?JobID=1182917 |
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Dan Megna, Photographer
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Coronado | CA | USA | Posted: 5:46 PM on 07.10.10 |
->> I predict THIS thread degrades pretty quickly into a heated political debate.
Think I'll just watch... |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 5:49 PM on 07.10.10 |
->> I like it. The AP has recognized the need for a skilled professional journalist. They're hiring a full-time, albeit temporary, employee. They could simply bottom feed and pick up individual images on the cheap from GWCs.
--Mark |
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Colin Hackley, Photographer
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Tallahassee | FL | USA | Posted: 9:33 PM on 07.10.10 |
->> The AP does a similar thing here every year bringing an additional legislative reporter in for a set period of time.
I don't know if it will translate in this case, but for the legislative writers it can lead to full time work elsewhere with the AP.
I would hope that the potential employee would have full benefits including health care etc. because nine months of covering a disaster that is this toxic will could take a toll on your health (short and long-term).
Given the economy and number of experienced folks available I'm sure they won't have a hard time filling it. |
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 9:28 AM on 07.11.10 |
->> better than the AP just taking BP's flikr feed, right?
given the downsizing AP has done the last couple of years this would qualify as an acknowledgment that perhaps they cut too deep to deal with something such as a major disaster?
Hard to imagine how they'll cope with the next presidential election if one little oil spill causes this, eh? |
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Thomas B. Shea, Photographer
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Pearland/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:10 AM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> I would think if you did a great job, this could turn into full time employment with AP. |
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Gary Gardiner, Photographer
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Westerville | OH | USA | Posted: 11:30 AM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> 100 to 1 odds it goes to former AP staffer and superb photographer Dave Martin, who deserves it more than most others. Unless there is some obscure labor or union ruling that prevents hiring former employees who were released from their jobs in a downsizing. Regardless, Dave's the best man for the job. |
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Michael P. King, Photographer
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Gary Gardiner, Photographer
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Westerville | OH | USA | Posted: 1:59 PM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> That's great for Dave. I hadn't talked to him in some time and wasn't aware. It's an even better decision by the AP. |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 2:17 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> Michael,
That release referring to Dave doesn't say anything about this being a temporary appointment. Perhaps it's about a different position.
--Mark |
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Randy Sartin, Photographer
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Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> Best I remember, the Alabama job was posted a month or so back, different than the Gulf job. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 5:59 PM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> This is not the job Mullet took. He was hired back to a full time shooting position. This full time (only for nine months though)is something else entirely. |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 6:05 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> So Chuck, how do you feel about it?
--Mark |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 6:25 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> I thunk Michael was letting Gary know that David Martin alread had a position and thus Gary is on the bad side of his proposition of:
"100 to 1 odds it goes to former AP staffer and superb photographer Dave Martin"
Delane |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 7:18 PM on 07.11.10 |
| ->> What's the problem? It's a solid nine month plus gig that could lead to bigger and better things. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 7:36 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> Chuck
The way this industry is going, I think the 9 month temp-staff slot at the AP isn't a bad proposition. Do it well, it can lead to a full-time slot.
Honestly I'd look at it if I didn't have something else going on at the moment. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:07 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> I'll play devil's advocate.....if I was an AP staffer it might make me nervous to see something like this happening. This was originally going to be a rotating position for staffers according to what I was told by someone with inside knowledge. hypothetically, what would happen if the AP decided they didn't have enough work for a year round gig in certain states? they hire someone for nine months then rely on members contributions during the slow summer months....then hire someone new for the next year.
sure it might sound far fetched but think about how much money they would save. I truly want to believe what a couple of you guys said about it "could lead to bigger and better things". for sure I would really consider this if I was an out of work shooter with nothing going on. but if you had a freelance business could it survive a nine month hiatus? I think that would take some thought. just a couple of thoughts. and I too am glad that the A&P came to their senses and brought Dave Martin back. |
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Gary Gardiner, Photographer
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Westerville | OH | USA | Posted: 11:50 PM on 07.11.10 |
->> The AP has a vigorous intern program. The time limit is 9 months to satisfy labor law and union contract. If the intern stays after 9 months they are considered full-time permanent employee.
Once the internship ends the intern, if not hired, cannot be hired as an intern for a lengthy time. 24 months if I remember correctly.
Most of the interns who have become full-time staffers at the conclusion of the internship are reporters. I'm sorry to say that I can't remember which photo interns became staffers. It's been five+ years since I retired and the memories are scattered. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 9:36 AM on 07.12.10 |
| ->> BTW, just to be clear. I just wanted to see what people's opinions were. I don't have a problem since I a)don't string for the A&P b)am not planning on working for the A&P |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 07.12.10 |
->> Chuck, I see what you're saying about it being a precedent, but if this is a change from an original plan of rotating staffers it could be about long-term budgeting.
If the original plan was to rotate they may have thought it would be for a couple months, not nearly a year. When realizing it would take longer and more manpower then paying for staffers to come in and pay their travel, housing, meals, OT etc. as they would probably have to do for someone traveling.
By hiring a temp staffer, then they would not have to pay housing or meals that are local to the base in New Orleans, plus no other travel fees such as airline tickets, excess baggage fees and car rentals. |
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Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Washington | DC | United States | Posted: 1:35 PM on 07.12.10 |
| ->> Gary, former AP photo intern Haraz Ghanbari is now an AP staffer in their Washington bureau, fyi. |
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Gary Gardiner, Photographer
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Westerville | OH | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 07.12.10 |
->> I had forgotten about HG being an intern. I remember him as a 17-year-old kid who called me with photos from a multi-car multi-fatal accident on the Interstate near Akron. He was concerned I wouldn't take him serious knowing he was so young. I told him I didn't care how old he was if he took good photos. He did and still does.
If you don't know Haraz, you should.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1797229&id=767999303 |
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