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OT - Earthquake in Cali? Minor One...
Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 12:41 AM on 06.15.10 |
->> So they had one at 9:20 something tonight. It was a 5.9 in the middle of nowhere. The real reason to post...how many of you know about this site?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/
It is enlightening and terrifying all at once. WAY too much information for me. |
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Charles Baus, Photographer
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Palm Springs, Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:11 AM on 06.15.10 |
| ->> I felt it, just swayed for a couple seconds....pretty typical for my area. There was a 4.8 and 4.4 about 30 miles from my house about a week ago. |
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
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La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 1:19 AM on 06.15.10 |
| ->> Hey CJ, Not as strong as the one during the Nabisco Championship. I thought the media tent was going to come down on us. |
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Craig Mitchelldyer, Photographer, Assistant
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 1:26 AM on 06.15.10 |
| ->> They briefly stopped the padres/blue jays game in the bottom of the 8th. http://usat.me?38878002 I left Petco in the top of the 8th and was driving, didn't feel it. Dang! |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 10:28 AM on 06.15.10 |
| ->> Well, I am staying in La Mesa, only a few miles from the epicenter, and I felt it pretty good. It was like a short E ride at Disneyland. The first lasted about 30 seconds and the second came about 10 seconds later and lasted less than 15 seconds. At least, that was my experience. It rattled a few dishes and was gone. Like a specter in the night. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 1:11 PM on 06.15.10 |
| ->> We had two pretty large ones at Auburn when I was in school there... Shaking things off shelves, etc... Both in the middle of the night too. Probably the only times in my life I wasn't entirely sure that the world hadn't ended. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 5:56 PM on 06.15.10 |
->> Clark, interesting link.
I was introduced to a good site last weekend to track tornadoes and other storms. Lots of ways to make this interactive site pinpoint your exact location and that of incoming storms.
http://www.wunderground.com/
(click upper right area for full screen and then input your zip code.) |
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Robert Benson, Photographer
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San Diego | Ca | USA | Posted: 7:29 PM on 06.15.10 |
->> DEAD bodies after deady earthquakes are usually found under desks, in door frames - the kinds of places we were taught as kids to go for shelter.
Yesterday during the quake I moved to a void between my kitchen's center island and a refridgerator. That's the place to be when things start falling - those types of voids.
Forget everything you've been trained to do during an earthquake! Read this:
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries...
I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.
The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.
Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them.. This space is what I call the "triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death.. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake... It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway... The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!
"We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly"
In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul , University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my “triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover.
There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe , and it was seen in the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV |
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:55 PM on 06.15.10 |
->> Dianna,
I have that site bookmarked as well. The full screen map is an awesome tool and from what I can tell is updated with watches and warnings in realtime. The other day I tracked storms head our way and a severe thunderstorm warning area popped on just as they were making the announcement on our local tv station. How cool is that?
Unfortunately, not all of the tornado history is available for some areas and for the most part only covers the past decade, but is nifty to see where they have occured, their size and how long they were on the ground |
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 11:43 PM on 06.15.10 |
->> Clark,
Yes it is cool to be able to see the storms as they roll in. We were sitting in the press room looking out the window and literally seeing the exact clouds both on the screen and out the window. It was cool.
We could see the direction of several separate storm clouds and track the direction each was headed on the screen. There was an area to our west that had an active tornado watch and three distinct cloud areas going in separate directions. (Sorry my weather terminology is lacking this time of night -- and I'm a bit lazy right now about looking up terms -- but I'm sure you know what I mean.)
I'm a bit of a weather geek too. Storm chasing is definitely on my bucket list along with photographing a funnel cloud :-)
I'm sure there are sites to find tornado history out there somewhere.
Unfortunately, I hear weather underground's phone apps need some work. |
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 10:15 AM on 06.16.10 |
->> Great more scary crap. Since I live on the East Coast, the whole earthquake thing, while unsettling, isn't really an issue for me. Tornados on the other hand, not a fan of those. Between going to college in Missouri and moving to what seems like the tornado-alley of the Mid-Atlantic - don't like 'em.
Thanks for the resource.
Even more unsettling, that 5.7 the other day everyone felt they are saying was an aftershock from one in April? How the hell do you folks live with that on a daily basis? |
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