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Strasburg image in Washington Post - How?
Joe Lorenzini, Photographer
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Flower Mound (DFW) | TX | USA | Posted: 11:54 AM on 06.10.10 |
->> There's a fantastic image of Steven Strasburg in the Washington Post taken by staff photog Jonathan Newton. Here's a link to a simple explanation of how the image was taken.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/09/AR201006090...
My question is: How was this image taken?
When he says he rotated the lens about 10 degrees I'm guessing he's talking about the zoom ring and even then, how is Strasburg's face in focus while the entire background is in motion?
I'd really like to know how to break down an image like this, it's very unique.
Thanks for any educational development anyone may be willing to part with!
Joe |
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Jim Comeau, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 06.10.10 |
| ->> Looks like a little zooming and a little panning simultaneously. |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 12:29 PM on 06.10.10 |
| ->> Type zoom blur technique into your favorite search engine and you will find tons of tutorials on how to do it (including ways to fake it in Photoshop -- which you should never do editorially so just skip those) |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:07 PM on 06.10.10 |
->> My question is how can the newspaper sell copies of the image to the public? (Buy Photo Button)
Do they have an agreement with MLB to sell the images? Just askin....
Cool shot nonetheless! |
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 06.10.10 |
| ->> $150 for a framed 8x10....must be a nice frame! |
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Pete Souza, Photographer
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 2:50 PM on 06.10.10 |
->> I happened to ask Jonathan yesterday how he did it:
200 ISO, a 30th @ f 11 shooting with the nikon 200-400mm lens, I did
a slight tug on the zoom. |
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Eric Canha, Photographer
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Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 2:59 PM on 06.10.10 |
->> Alex been covered here 1000's of times already. They are selling an EDITORIAL print. For 75 cents you can have it printed on newsprint or for a little more you can have it printed on 'nice' paper.
Just as they didn't need permission to sell it as a collection of photos (and words) of the days events they don't need permission to sell it standalone. |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 11:08 PM on 06.10.10 |
->> The story in the WP is wrong. It sounds like Jonathan was interviewed by somebody who was not versed in photographic techniques. Jonathan may have said that he rotated the zoom about 10 degrees and the words "the zoom" were omitted. Just my guess.
The photo looks like it was framed with the pitcher in the right third of the image and the left half was cropped off, leaving the center of zoom on the left side of the image.
What puzzles me is that everything around the pitcher's head exhibits radial zoom blur, but his face is sharp. I don't know how that would be possible to do in the camera.
--Mark |
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Joe Lorenzini, Photographer
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Flower Mound (DFW) | TX | USA | Posted: 12:51 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> I'm with you Mark, I understand the motion/zoom blur but can't figure out how his face stayed in focus.
I'm shooting a tourney this weekend and will be trying to dup this for sure!
Joe |
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
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Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 12:58 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> The right side of the frame ends up having more of the pan blur effect than the zoom effect. Many pitchers keep their heads very still at this point in their delivery. Randy Johnson was famous for doing this and many people made insanely cool pictures of the Big Unit in the 1990's shot super slow with a tack sharp face. So much so that it became a cliche.
All pitchers are different. Some have a delivery that is very "quiet" like Strasburg, but most do not. Same goes for batters.
I think this is a real nice photograph and kudos to the Post for running it on the sports front. |
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
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Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 12:59 AM on 06.11.10 |
| ->> The only thing that I can think of is that if he were to be zooming out at the same speed that the pitcher was moving, that would allow the panning effect on the image- pitcher stays sharp, background gets blurred. |
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
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Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:41 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> This right from the link in the first post:
"I was using a Nikon D3 with a 200-400mm zoom lens. I set the shutter speed at 1/30th of a second, with the aperture setting at f11. The ISO rating was 200. The slow shutter speed created the blur and I rotated the lens slightly -- about 10 degrees -- to create a sense of motion. I focused the camera on Strasburg and when he pitched his head remained still enough to keep that part of the photograph in focus." |
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Richard Wolowicz, Photographer
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Montreal | QC | Canada | Posted: 8:34 AM on 06.11.10 |
| ->> Sweet frame ! |
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 9:22 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> the in-focus face is luck ... really. curious how many pitches he shot this way to get this one.
I hate the effect in an editorial context ... seriously, how does it enhance the storytelling? How does it better impart the facts?
doing something different isn't a good enough excuse in my book.
but then, I'm just a curmudgeon with a spare 2 cents :-) |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 9:37 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> Sean -
my $0.02. I think it tells the story quite well and accomplishes exactly what he said he wanted - a sense of energy and excitement in the stands - much more so than a "normal" shot of the stands would have. |
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Tim Clark, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | USA | Posted: 11:20 AM on 06.11.10 |
| ->> I really like this image. Good job Jonathan |
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Greg Foster, Photographer
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Atlanta | GA | | Posted: 11:42 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> >> the in-focus face is luck
Yep, Jonathon has been a consistently lucky guy with his great sports photography for the last 20 years or so. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 11:50 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> It's not hard - you just zoom out while he moves so that his face stays at the same point in the viewfinder a few times, then take the shot the same way. Slow your shutter as much as you think is appropriate. His face probably isn't tack sharp because of the zoom, but plenty usable. There's a little bit of pan (or maybe crop) in it which places the other focus point off center.
Try doing the same with a wide angle - take a slow shutter speed and zoom in or out while a car drives by you. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 11:50 AM on 06.11.10 |
->> > ->> $150 for a framed 8x10....must be a nice frame!
Or you know the value of your work. |
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Garrett Hubbard, Photographer
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Washington | D.C. | USA | Posted: 12:25 PM on 06.11.10 |
| ->> totally digging this image. It tells such a great story of the excitement surrounding Strasburg here in D.C. The photo ran five-columns above the fold on the sports front the next day. I'm saving my copy : ) |
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Joe Lorenzini, Photographer
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Flower Mound (DFW) | TX | USA | Posted: 1:32 AM on 06.12.10 |
->> I tried this today on a pitcher and didn't come anywhere close. Rotating the zoom 10 degrees while following the subject at 1/30th is fairly difficult. I'm shooting the same tourney tomorrow and am going to try it using a tripod.
Much respect and admiration to Mr. Newton is due.
Joe |
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Tami Chappell, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 6:09 PM on 06.12.10 |
| ->> I think its an awesome image. And anyone that covers hundreds of pitchers knows its nice to shoot something different for a change rather than the same type shot. Jonathan is a highly talented photographer and I think captured everything about the night in this shot. I don't think because we shoot editorial means you can't be creative. |
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Heston Quan, Photographer
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Orange County | CA | | Posted: 6:49 PM on 06.12.10 |
->> I'm just glad to see the Art of creating images in-camera hasn't been totally lost. So tired of people saying "Just do it in Photoshop."
Nice job Jonathan! |
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Stephen O'Brien, Photographer
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Houston | Tx | USA | Posted: 4:19 PM on 06.21.10 |
| ->> Awesome photo! |
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