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Apple posts HTML5 Demo
Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 06.04.10 |
->> Apple has posted an interesting demo utilizing HTML5, CSS3 and Javascript .... all without the use of Flash.
One caveat ... you need a current version of Safari to view the demo.
http://www.apple.com/html5/
*I'm not in any way a proponent of either side of the Flash vs No Flash argument for Apple mobile devices debate .... just sharing a link to the demo* |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 11:11 AM on 06.04.10 |
| ->> so much for open standards (lol) |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 11:35 AM on 06.04.10 |
->> "->> so much for open standards (lol)"
Well .... the Safari restriction is because it is currently the only HTML5 capable browser available ..... |
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 1:39 PM on 06.04.10 |
->> Mixed feelings here. I've always felt flash is WAY over used in websites. Any time music starts playing without my input or pictures start dancing across my screen forcing me to wait until they are done with their self indulgence, I move on.
With HTML5 I fear the ease with which audio and video can be integrated may just increase those frustrations though the demo seems very cool. Jobs' explanation of why they don't support flash seems very reasonable to me and I'm a cross platform computer user, no specific allegiance.
Guess we'll just have to roll with the changes.
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 2:54 PM on 06.04.10 |
->> Actually, many other browsers support HTML5 elements. Not even Safari supports it all (and no .ogg to boot!).
http://www.findmebyip.com/litmus |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Matt Barton, Photographer
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Lexington | KY | USA | Posted: 3:38 PM on 06.04.10 |
| ->> I'm tired of being the family's official browser handyman. I welcome the day I no longer have to deal with annoying plug-ins or reminders to download the latest copy of whatever 10.0.1 to watch a movie trailer. Hello future. |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 06.04.10 |
->> "(and no .ogg to boot!)"
Yes and Chrome won't do mp3 or wav in HTML5 according to your link .... :-)
I can see why Apple would want to limit the demo to Safari ... after all that is the browser that the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch uses ... which is the point Apple is trying to make that their mobile devices don't need Flash to have rich, creative content. (Not that I am taking their side in this issue ... but I am willing to listen to both sides)
Be as it may ... I just visited the individual demos via the link below with the latest version of Google Chrome for Mac (Firefox was rejected) ... and most of the demos failed miserably ... none of the samples with video played the video ... pages loaded much slower than on Safari ... the photo gallery did not render properly except in the grid mode ... the transitions demo that had any extensive animation did not work properly .... the slide show in the light table demo worked fine ...the Canvas Pixel Manipulation worked fine as it does in Safari ...
So if you only tried viewing this demo on another browser and it failed ... wouldn't that lead to many folks to believing that HTML5, CSS3 and Javascript failed ... and not the limitations of their favorite browser?
http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/ |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 8:41 PM on 06.04.10 |
->> "I can see why Apple would want to limit the demo to Safari ..."
It's not apple limiting it... It's that apple is running way ahead of everyone else with their web browser development, as they've done since the ACID tests were released. When they're given a challenge their safari people rise to meet it.
Microsoft, for example, still hasn't implemented CSS2 successfully. You now have to have three different statements to modify opacity - one for CSS, one for MS's IE6/7 and one for IE 8. And we're now supposed to be on CSS 3 and HTML 5...
Firefox and Chrome are rapidly developing HTML5 and CSS3, IE is working on HTML 4 and CSS 2.1, Safari is in the lead.
Here's site developed for CSS3 demos: http://www.css3.info/
And another one for HTML5: http://html5demos.com/
CSS and HTML standards are set by the World Wide Web Consortium (http://www.w3c.org) and are made using input from all industry leaders.
Also, if you're up for a laugh, Adobe released a letter about their support for open standards here: http://www.adobe.com/choice/ - basically a statement that they're supportive of open standards too. They released HTML5 support with Dreamweaver CS5. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 8:52 PM on 06.04.10 |
| ->> Sorry, ignore that first part... Yeah, they're using browser detection and their demo is turned off in FF when you're not spoofing :) |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 9:14 PM on 06.04.10 |
->> Israel, I agree .... there are many wonderful design elements that can be used on the web (even before HTML5 and CSS3) ... but ... by the time you dumb it down for IE ... much is lost or the code is so bloated to make it play nice with IE ... too bad really that the biggest software developer in the world can't keep up and lags so far behind in browser development ... one would hope they would be leaders in browser development ... but as long as they have such a majority of users ... I doubt we will see much action taken to change the pace ....
What I found interesting about the Apple demo ... is when you view the source code, how little code is actually involved to accomplish the task ... |
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