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I've had some odd encounters with PR people but...
Brian Blanco, Photographer
Tampa / Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 8:51 PM on 05.28.10
->> This one has to take the cake.

http://iteamblog.abc7news.com/2010/05/laguna-honda-patient-gift-fund-1.html
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David Vega, Photographer
Santa Ana | CA | U.S. | Posted: 11:42 PM on 05.28.10
->> WOW!!!! I know I would not have been so cordial with that guy touching me like that. Kudos to him for being so professional. It was funny though.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 12:11 AM on 05.29.10
->> WTF!?! Keeps on touching him after being told to stop or the cops will be called, and then has his hands behind his back and trying to go chest to chest like an umpire but is a foot shorter. Someone has issues!
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 12:31 AM on 05.29.10
->> The reporter was really nice to him, especially with how the little guy hit the girl with the cell phone camera in the face... I don't think I would've held back after that!
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 12:48 AM on 05.29.10
->> I gotta agree that I would had 'stumbled' and landed all 300#s on that little twit. Sometimes feet just get tangled.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 1:05 AM on 05.29.10
->> I'm at least 2500 miles away and I feel the slime in my living room.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 6:50 AM on 05.29.10
->> That has to be the strangest PR flack encounter I have ever seen, by far.

I sincerely hope Marc Slavin is no longer employed in a public relations, or community relations, capacity.
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Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 8:29 AM on 05.29.10
->> It was surreal enough that for a moment I thought it was a satire.
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Sean Burges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Ottawa | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:47 AM on 05.29.10
->> Actually, I'd have to say that the PR guy was brilliant. Clearly, they didn't want to address the issue and they really didn't want to have the meeting. PR man almost brilliantly walked that line to cause a disruption that cancelled the meeting. His boss jumped on things just a bit too quick for it to have been an accident. Assault charges might be a good reward for the conduct, but frankly the perception of threat just isn't there, except for the camera that got smacked.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 11:52 AM on 05.29.10
->> Is there some double-secret probation class in the PR track that covers how to *handle* situations management wants no part of?
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:45 PM on 05.30.10
->> that was awesome. and some of the comments were spot on. it looks as though the whole incident was done so the PR guy could cancel the town meeting and blame the tv guys....sad.
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 5:14 PM on 05.30.10
->> They don't teach those things to us, any more than journalists are taught to lie in order to get confirming sources. The unscrupulous come up with these all on their own, and all too easily.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 7:54 PM on 05.30.10
->> Dave,

It's simple. All they needed to do was say, "We are not going to talk to you."

--Mark
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 8:53 PM on 05.30.10
->> Mark, that would be the obvious method. On more than one occasion I've been *handled* by PR types who would do anything to avoid a direct response or to respond in any fashion that could be recalled as contrary to management's stated position.
Somewhere, there is I would believe, a class, seminar, session, conclave, or such dealing with How to Deflect Attention While Appearing to be On Message.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 9:41 PM on 05.30.10
->> Check the BP responses to the oil spill.....no touching involved but the deflection is the same.
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Shawn Lynch, Photographer
New York | New York | USA | Posted: 3:34 PM on 05.31.10
->> Sean,

From my understanding of the law, he could actually have been charged with assault AND battery. Assualt is the threat or intention to hit someone. Battery would have been where he actually laid his hands on the reporter after repeated requests not to be touched. I'm sure the video person could also have had a case.

And just watching that video made my heart rate go up. I'm not sure how I would have handled that situation. I hope I would have been as graceful and restrained as the reporter.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 3:55 PM on 05.31.10
->> You know I think I'll go back to my philosophy for shooting ... WWCLD?
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Sean Burges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Ottawa | ON | Canada | Posted: 4:23 PM on 05.31.10
->> Shawn

Ah, the joys of different jurisdictions. I do believe you are totally correct, although I think a cop North of the 49th might well laugh. You are right about the reporter -- a model of grace and restraint.
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Hal Smith, Photographer
Sedalia | MO | USA | Posted: 10:42 PM on 05.31.10
->> Steven,

Does WWCLD stand for, "What would Courtney Love Do?"

But on a more serious note, there are private courses for P.R. and media relations workers with titles like "media evasion" and "tactical media confrontation" which train media relations workers how to use close passive physical contact to actually cause their opposite counterpart to become emotionally uncomfortable and physically aggressive as a way of establishing situational control.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 10:57 PM on 05.31.10
->> See!, See!, I Knew It!
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 9:03 AM on 06.01.10
->> The first rule in crisis media relations is: DO NOT TOUCH THE CAMERA!!!!

I am sure the patients are getting free sodas now.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 9:41 AM on 06.01.10
->> Hal

WWCLD = What Would Chuck Liddy Do
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D. Ross Cameron, Photographer
Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 3:38 PM on 06.01.10
->> I agree with Mr. Burges: Mr. Slavin, while majorly creepy, used a brilliant tactic to help the hospital skirt discussing a topic it clearly wished to avoid.

And for those of you who actually have to deal with this kind of situation in the field, Mr. Noyes' response was one you should emulate. Your first instinct might be to deck the PR monkey, but that would be playing right into his/her hands.

Keep your wits about you, restrain your temper, or end up making the touchy-feely guy look sympathetic.

Don't touch me, either,
DRC
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Geoff Miller, Photographer
Portage | MI | USA | Posted: 3:42 PM on 06.01.10
->> Agreed... The PR guy was "crazy like a fox". He walks in, manufactures a "disturbance" and then it's show over and no answers!
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Renay Johnson, Photographer
San Diego | CA | | Posted: 1:57 AM on 06.02.10
->> I need therapy after watching that creep in action. That was scary! God grant me the strength to be that cool if someone ever handles me like that.
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Robert Scheer, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 11:53 AM on 06.02.10
->> Creepy! Since watching it yesterday, my co-workers and I have been walking around with our hands on each other's shoulders.

Marc should be given the PR equivalent of an Oscar. And the "Obfuscator of the Year" award goes to. . .
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