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Need some smartphone advice
Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 10:17 AM on 05.20.10 |
| ->> Hello all. Looking for a smartphone. Needs include the ability to make nicey nice with Google Calendar and the ability to do that whole MyFi thing. Oh, Verizon only please. Thanks for the help. |
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 12:35 PM on 05.20.10 |
| ->> In a word: Android. The HTC Incredible is your current best smart phone for Verizon. I am on T-Mobile and have been an Android phone guy since the G1 hit over a year and a half ago and can't recommend it more. I currently have the Nexus One and ka-ZAM! it's sweet. The new OS is about to be released which gives us native USB tethering and will make our phones a 3G hotspot. Sync is a snap and yadda yadda. |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 05.20.10 |
| ->> +1 vote for the Incredible. It lives up to it's name. |
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Jim Comeau, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:20 PM on 05.20.10 |
| ->> ditto |
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Nic Coury, Photographer
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Monterey | CA | | Posted: 1:30 PM on 05.20.10 |
->> I have a Blackberry and it's pretty cool. Email, text, Twitter and Facebook on the the go. It's fairly alright. Probably not at the level of the obvi. iPhone, but fits my needs.
Most important, Verizon is super badass around this area. Far better service than AT&T. |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:38 PM on 05.20.10 |
->> I would agree currently with the Incredible choice if you are looking for hardware only... however, If Verizon were to get a Window's phone with the same hardware as the incredable... Then you should go there.
Dispite Apple and Google's claims... Window's Mobile still is the most versital mobile platform on the market. For instance... I able to use filezilla on my HTC HD2... As well as my wife's HTC Touch Pro 2... Both Window's platforms. Oh and did I mention I can use view flash pages on my phone (with the help of Adobe Flash Lite 3.6) I use Tom Tom, as well as a program that directly downloads the National Weather Services Weather Radar Maps... All of this free of charge... There is an app store but... The community for Window's Mobile is vastly more broad and always figuring out new programs for these devices... Usualy free of charge. With both Apple's OS and Google's (Android) for the most part you only have the choices of what they have approved... I.E. if it is not in thier app store then you probably can't get it to work. Oh... and did I mention that Window's Mobile and RIM (BlackBerry) are the ONLY two os that are enterprise compliant... Meaning they are secure encription enabled. That's why the US Army uses W.M.
I have an old Sprint HTC Touch Diamond that I've put in my wife's car as her gps (TomTom) it doesn't get any phone service now... In fact I've turned off the Phone's radio... But It was very very easy to tell the Window's OS to only enable the phone as a GPS Client...
Currently with Window's Mobile, if you can write it or get someone to write the program then you can get it to run on that phone... That is just not possible with either Android or Apple's OS...
So, Based on Version's current lineup I'd go with the HTC Imago... The hardware is better in HTC'S Incredable but the Operating system is head and shoulders above anything else. |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:40 PM on 05.20.10 |
| ->> Oh, and i forgot to add... The whole tethering bit... Yeah with Android you will probably be able to do that soon... nativly. But you have been able to do that for quite awhile with Window's Mobile... WITHOUT THE WHOLE USB TETHERING BIT... The program is called "WIFI-Router" another free Windows Mobile Program... |
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Michael Myers, Photographer
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Miami | Florida | USA | Posted: 1:53 AM on 05.21.10 |
->> I've got Windows Mobile 6.1 on my Samsung Omnia i900, and while I find several things very frustrating, I have enjoyed having Windows. Now they're up to Windows 6.5 (even better) but all this changes when Windows 7 comes out for the mobile phones - no more multi-tasking, and while the phone is being simplified, it's losing much of why I wanted Windows in the first place. I've added the new Windows phones to the list of phones I have no interest in, including the iphone.
Everything I have read points to Android as the best (for me) system in the future, and I feel HTC is probably the best manufacturer out there. The HTC HD2 almost overcame the shortcomings of Windows, and the new HTC Incredible seems to be as good as it gets nowadays. I plan to buy an unlocked version on my next trip overseas. It's a choice right now between the HD2 and the Incredible.
(I should add that I'd have already given up on the Samsung in favor of something better, but installing the SPB Mobile Shell along with the other SPB utilities made a big enough improvement in the phone that I'm still using it. My biggest gripe with many of these phones, is that I just can't see what is on the screen when I'm outdoors in sunlight.) |
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 9:49 AM on 05.21.10 |
->> I had a Windows mobile OS on my HTC Touch about a year ago. It was complete crap! Just like a PC, I had to reboot that sucker at least once a day, maybe more. It would constantly freeze up. The battery wouldn't make it thru a day (obviously not the fault of the OS).
Maybe it was the HTC Touch, and not Windows mobile. But it was enough for me to get off and stay off that band wagon.
I am liking the Blackberry at this point, although an iPhone or Droid has peaked my curiosity. Once Sprint gets the iPhone, I might have to bail from the BB. |
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Colin Hackley, Photographer
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Tallahassee | FL | USA | Posted: 11:41 AM on 05.21.10 |
| ->> I've had a Palm Pre Plus from Verizon for a little over a month. I haven't had much time to learn it but have been mostly pleased with it. It is supposed to do the google calendar thing but I don't use that. Palm pushes e-mail like the blackberry and that was easy to configure. It has a built in wi-fi hotspot function that was VERY easy to set up and in my limited use works well. When I bought the phone Verizon was waving the fee they charge to tether the phone to your laptop for the length of the two year contract so that was a big bonus for me. I believe with a blackberry and other smarth phones you have to pay a tether fee on top of the data fee so the monthly savings made a difference. E-mail me if you want more info. |
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Randy Abrams, Photographer
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Bath | NY | US | Posted: 12:02 PM on 05.21.10 |
| ->> I had the Blackberry Curve and just got the Incredible (for Verizon) last week. I was trying to hold out for the iPhone, but obviously that wasn't going to happen this year. The Incredible works great with Google and even my work exchange server. No complaints here. |
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Marty Price, Photographer
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Concord | NC | USA | Posted: 12:47 PM on 05.21.10 |
| ->> I also have the Palm Pre Plus. The wi-fi hot spot feature is outstanding and is a free feature (up to 5 gigs per months) on this phone. With droid you have to pay for the wi-fi hot spot. It is wireless so no need for tethering. I have used it to transmit on location and the 3G high speed internet is super fast. They are around $50 and can do all the internet stuff you need in addition to creating it's own wi-fi hot spot. I am very happy with this set up. Marty |
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 1:02 PM on 05.21.10 |
| ->> I had heard that the Palm Pre Plus was probably leading the pack with the MyFi gig. I had not heard that the Android OS would start supporting that soon. Is it true that will be fee based? We all have phones and USB cell modems now. We hope to eliminate the USB cell modems and the related expense when we make the change to a smartphone in the fall. |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 2:45 PM on 05.21.10 |
->> Grant - I've heard good things about the Palm Pre. The critics liked it, but it flopped for the most part. Perhaps it was those television commercials with the creepy spokesperson from the future. I'm an Android user, formerly a BB user. Below is some observations and clarifications regarding Android that might help you in your decision.
First off. Google will rule the world. You might as well get and Android phone and join movement before you are compelled to. I kid I kid.
Seriously. Android is a solid platform. I switched from Blackberry to Android a few months ago. The Incredbile is and incredible phone with and incredibly dumb name. I have been quite pleased with it. It is quite snappy and supposedly and the new version of of Android will make it even snappier. HTC Sense UI is great. I've had an Eris (very slow) and my gf has as Droid all are solid phones. Setting up the phone is a bit less user friendly than other phones. Find some of the setting and sorting through all of the different widgets can be difficult. There is a bit more of a time investment in getting is set up and I think that is because of customization options.
It's also important to note that Android is open source. Several phone manufacturers have Android phones out and more and more are announcing phones every day. This is good because it encourages competition, which means faster more feature-rich phones for consumers (though it is frustrating to see your freaky fast phone get passed up in two months by and even freakier faster phone). With Apple, Blackberry and Palm, they have proprietary OS for their particular phones. While the different device manufacturers run Android, phone manufacturers have different User Interfaces as well as devices.
The Incredible can have poor battery life (Google founder Larry Page says it is bad app programming that is the culprit). There are some solutions for this, but if you're a heavy internet user you might need a higher capacity third party battery. Also, the screen can be a bit hard to see in bright sunlight.
One big difference is that Android only has push email for Gmail or accounts hosted by a Microsoft Exchange Server. There are few work arounds for that. The best that I found is to have Google Apps host your email (I think host is the right term). If you use Google Apps for email, simply set up your email account as you would a Gmail account using you email address and password in the corresponding fields (It's not necessary to follow the IMAP instructions on the support site) The advantage with push email is that you get it nearly instantaneously and the device uses less power than those than pull email. Though you can set the frequency with which you pull email. Using Gmail and Google Apps email will allow you to sync your email without needing Exchange or, in the case of BB, Outlook (I think).
Something that I would like to correct from a post above, access to apps is not limited to what is on the Google Marketplace. You can download apps that are not on the Marketplace. Apple and Google are very different in how they handle their app stores. Apple has a 'filter then publish' philosophy and Google has a 'publish then filter' philosophy. Apple puts apps in their store after it goes through their approval process, while Google will pull apps if there are complaints from users. You don't have to jailbreak or root an Android phone to install a non-marketplace app. (BTW a handy app for newspaper photogs might be scanner radio. I've downloaded, but have yet to use it). Other handy apps are Google Navigation, Google Goggles, and the Speech to Text is phenomenal.
You can tether the phone using PDA Net. It has a USB and a Bluetooth tethering capability (though I've not gotten the Bluetooth to work and I think I'm doing something wrong with the settings). There are other tethering programs as well. It is just as fast as 3G Broadband cards as they also run on RevA.
Android 2.2 or Froyo is supposed to a WiFi hotspot capable and I suppose that is also dependent on the carrier.
Some versions of Android support Flash Lite as well. You can also download Skyfire, which supports flash movies on some sites as well (Hulu didn't want to play, so it doesn't work on Hulu). Android 2.2 will support Flash 10.
This is probably more information than which you were hoping. Most of this information, I have from experience or gleaned from various smartphone. I'm sure there are those on the list that know far more than I do and I hope they will correct my errors. Feel free to contact me if I can clarify any of my insane ramblings. If you were wondering, I'm not a Google employee, though I wish I were. They have super-cool campus in Kirkland, including a climbing wall. Perhaps they brainwashed me there. |
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Michael Myers, Photographer
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Miami | Florida | USA | Posted: 1:21 AM on 05.24.10 |
->> Stephen, one quick question. I like the ability of my Windows phone to do a "sync" with my PC, where Outlook information (and other things) are usually updated quite easily. Most of the time this is great, but twice things have gotten confused, and it was pretty difficult to get it working again.
Will Android on the Incredible do the same thing? I mostly need it to sync my contacts; other things are also important, but secondary.
One other question, if you have the answer. If my Windows phone wants to use the internet, it will first try Wi-Fi, but if there is no connection, it automatically wants to use GPRS which is often a waste of money. I only want the phone to use GPRS when *I* want it to do so, not when it decides for some reason that it needs to connect.
How does Android handle this?
(With my old Nokia n95, it was configured to always "ask first", so I never had it connect to a paid connection when I didn't first say OK.)
(My "fix" for my Windows phone was to change the connection setting from "wap.cingular" to "wap.cingula". With the mis-spelling, the phone can do this all it wants to, but it will never connect unless I correct the spelling first. Dumb to have to do this, but nobody I have met has figured out a better way that I trust.) |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 7:48 AM on 05.24.10 |
->> Hey, I know I'm probaly on a losing argument here... Google has done a wonderfull job of advertizing...
As for Windows 6.55 Best os yet.
Windows mobile 7... hasn't been released, so I haven't played with any of it. On the little bit that has been released... it doesn't look promising...
Good thing they are still going to suport 6.55
Oh, and HD2 compared to the Incredable... no comparison...
HD2 hands down. Best screen ever, fastest processer ever, most customizable OS every, Pretty much in my opinion the best mobile handset released yet. That of course explain why no one can keep it in stock...
Here is a good article that explains better than I can what I was saying above about Google and how they are not actually open source...
Research Director Andreas Constantinou from analyst firm Vision Mobile has laid out a pretty detailed explanation why Android is possible the most closed open source OS in the world, and how Google continue to control both companies and end users who use the software.
Noting the free software came with an elaborate set of control points that allows Google to bundle its own services and control the exact software and hardware make-up on every handset, they claim Android is the best example of how a company can use open source to build up interest and community participation, while running a very tight commercial model.
They have identified 8 control points:
1. Private branches. Some companies have privileged access 6 months before everyone else to new development lines, meaning the ones that toe the line get to tout the latest version of the OS, while everyone else ships devices that look old when they are brand new.
2. Speed of evolution. Related to this, Google iterates the Android platform at a speed that’s unprecedented for the mobile industry, releasing 4 major updates (1.6 to 2.1) in 18 months, causing OEMs wanting to build on Android to have no choice but to stay close to Google so as not to lose on new features/bug fixes released.
3. Closed review process. All code reviewers work for Google, meaning very few community contributions get in and often no reason is offered on rejection.
4. Incomplete software. The public SDK lacks key building blocks missing are radio integration, international language packs, operator packs – and of course Google’s closed source apps like Market, Gmail and GTalk.
5. Gated developer community. Control of the Android Market is one of the strongest control points as no OEM would dare produce a handset that doesn’t tap into it.
6. Anti-fragmentation agreement. OHA members have signed a commitment not to release handsets which are not Compatibility Test Suite compliant . CTS precludes OEMs from creating stripped-down versions of Android that would fit on mass-market phones
7. Private roadmap. Currently the roadmap published publicly is a year out of date (Q1 2009) and to get a sneak peak into the private roadmap you need Google’s blessing.
8. Android trademark. Google holds the trademark to the Android name and it can only be leveraged with Google’s blessing.
In short, it’s either the Google way or the highway.
Constantinou concludes that Android is no more open – and no less closed – than Windows Mobile, Apple OSX or PalmOS, despite its Open Source veneer, and is simply a tool for Google to achieve its own ends, currently advertising but ultimately much wider, including mobile payment and voice traffic control.
Read the full thesis at VisionMobile.com here
Rant over...
Good luck with your choice...
Either way they are just phones... pick one you like :-) |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 10:24 AM on 05.24.10 |
->> Well that link would be the European version of the HD2 ...
The us version of the HD2 Has twice the rom... 1gb rom / 576 ram, oh and comes with a 16gb Micro SD card...
The Incredable comes with 8gb onboard flash, 512 rom/512 ram. No Micro SD card out of the box... It does support one however.
So as for onboard memory that is not removable out of the box... the Incredable has more... onboard memory removable/non-removable out of the box... hd2 has more... quite a bit more.
As for resolution... I never said anything about resolution... they are both wvga... however the incredable has a 3.7" amoled screen (read not compacitive and no multi touch and easy to scratch) while the HD2 has a 4.3" screen that is compacitive (aka multi touch, tempered glass, and much harder to scratch)
As for the processor... I'm not sure why however, the HD2 is faster in every benchmark test that I've read a review on... Yes they have the same processor but somewhere either hardware or software that processor is being slowed down in the Incredable.
US HD2 Specs: http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
Incredable specs: http://www.htc.com/us/products/droid-incredible-verizon?view=1-1&sort=0#tec... |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 11:49 AM on 05.24.10 |
->> I stand corrected on the multi touch... but not on anything else?
4.3" tempered Glass,
3.7" ?
I still think I'll stand by with the 4.3" if for anything else but the sheer size difference. |
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 4:15 PM on 05.25.10 |
| ->> So how well does the PDAnet tethering work with a Mac and an Android phone? |
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 5:44 PM on 05.25.10 |
| ->> Grant, Froyo is now out and is being pushed to Android phones over the coming months. I just installed it on my Nexus One and I've deleted the tethering apps since my phone is now a 3G wifi hotspot to my laptop for transmission and such. Whoo-Hoo! |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 6:15 PM on 05.25.10 |
| ->> Grant - PDA Net works fine. I haven't had any problems with it. I tether to a 15" MacBook Pro. Contact me via email if you have issues and I can help you out. If there have been problems it was user error or carrier coverage. I use Verizon. Not sure when Froyo will be available for the Incredible. The Droid will probably get it sooner. It all depends on the phone manufacturer and the carrier. |
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
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La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 8:06 PM on 05.25.10 |
->> Stephen,
Do you pay a tethering fee to Verizon to tether your phone with your laptop or does the data plan cover it? |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 8:21 PM on 05.25.10 |
| ->> It's all on the data plan (for now, heh). |
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Scott Lukaitis, Photographer
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Brick | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:58 PM on 05.25.10 |
->> "... Other handy apps are Google Navigation, Google Goggles, and the Speech to Text is phenomenal. .."
How good is the speech to text Android feature. I'm in the market for a smart phone and want to be able to "write" my article on the way home from an event. I realize the voice recognition may not be perfect but is there a limit on the quantity of text? |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 10:48 PM on 05.25.10 |
->> Gerry - What Daniel said. I think you can get tethering through Verizon for another $15/month, but you don't need that for PDA Net. As long as your not moving massive amounts of data, I don't think VZ will bother you.
Scott - I've only used the Speech to Text for searches and speaking an address for directions (while waiting at stop lights of course). I searched the other day for a friend and there are dictation apps (some free and those that cost are pretty affordable), but I don't know how will they work. They seem to have pretty good reviews, though I'm not sure if it incorporates contextual information for searches in the form of location and Internet browsing cache, which might decrease accuracy. Be sure to get a phone and version of Android that support Voice to Text. |
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Hassel Weems, Photographer
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Locust Grove (Atlanta) | GA | USA | Posted: 10:48 PM on 05.25.10 |
->> Grant, I live just up the road from you in Locust Grove. I've driven up and down I-75 with my wife in the passenger seat, using a Moto Droid tethered to a PC via PDA Net. It's fast enough for Skype video calls and the PDFs she has to download for her business.
Otherwise, I am very happy with the Android OS. Integration with Google Calendar, Google Voice, and Gmail are seamless. GPS navigation is integrated in Google maps and works very well.
The only complaint I have is that it can take a while to get a GPS satellite in some places. |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 11:22 PM on 05.25.10 |
| ->> Hassel - My SO has a Droid and she has problems getting the GPS to work from time to time for some reason. Usually, she has to reboot the Navigation program and occasionally rebooting the phone is necessary. I had the same problems on my Blackberry Storm, but have not had any issues on my Incredible. |
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 11:09 AM on 05.26.10 |
->> Re: PDAnet.
Sweet. I think we have a winner. In the event that Froyo hits El Increible (and assuming that's the phone we land on) we will be in even better shape.
Thanks for the help. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 4:20 PM on 06.07.10 |
| ->> Is anyone using the Eris? Your thoughts? |
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Harrison Shull, Photographer
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Fayetteville, WV | Asheville, NC | | Posted: 5:49 PM on 06.07.10 |
->> So.... another question along these lines. I am looking to step up to my first smartphone and am a bit leery of getting locked into a 2-year contract with hardware taht underperforms or that I simply cannot stand.
So I am very seriously considering paying the extra bit on the top and buying an unlocked phone online that I can simply slap my SIM card into and use without getting bound to a contract.
Does anybody have any advice of what to look for in terms of buying online or maybe some very reputablke sellers of unlocked phones? |
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 2:07 PM on 06.09.10 |
| ->> So a co-worker came in with a Sprint branded HTC Android phone. We easily gave the Mac with 10.5 and PDAnet a test run with the tethering. Very fast, very nice. |
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 10:26 AM on 06.10.10 |
->> Stew - I had an Eris for a about two months. Seemed very slow running Android 1.5 and compared to a Droid. I upgraded the Eris to 2.1 after I upgraded to the Incredible, so the Eris was not on the network. It seemed to run faster (but I was spoiled the snappiness of Incredible). I've run into some people who don't have any speed issues.
The upgrade to OS 2.1 added many features/apps not available on 1.5 such as Google Goggles and Voice Navigation. I think the biggest drawback for most people is the battery life. Otherwise it is a solid phone.
I think the reasons I chose the Eris over the Droid were (1) price: you can't beat free, (2) HTC Touch UI: I love it. Some people hate it. Knowing what I know now though, I would have give the Droid a more serious look. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 1:32 PM on 06.10.10 |
->> Stephen: Thanks for the info. I'm currently using a Blackberry World edition for my smartphone needs, but would like the option of using as an emergency wi-fi modem to send pix, w/o having to pay $15/month. Also, all the apps of the droid phones are amazing.
My wife is getting an Incredible, so I'll try hers out and see if I like it. |
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Jeff Napier, Photographer
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Brush Prairie | WA | USA | Posted: 2:56 PM on 06.11.10 |
| ->> Any thoughts or comments on the expected release of the HTC "X" Or "Extreme" which ever name it ends up being? |
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 11:24 AM on 06.12.10 |
->> Stew - I'm not sure what you mean by a WiFi modem, unless you're using a computer without WiFi. Right now, I tether my phone occasionally to send pictures, but I don't use Verizon's tethering service I use PDANet, but to do so you have to have the phone activted with a data plan. If you have an extra line, it is conceivable that you could switch between a non-smart phone and a smartphone as you needed. That is what I do if I need to use my broadband card. I activate the card when I need it and activate a old phone when I don't use it, since I use far less than the $40/month fee justifies.
By the way, if you're looking at tethering you Blackberry, try using Tether, which was formerly Tetherberry. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 8:45 PM on 06.12.10 |
| ->> Stephen: What I meant to say was, use a smartphone (blackberry, incredible, etc) tethered to my laptop to send photos to my clients from anywhere my phone gets s signal. |
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Gil Batzri, Photographer, Assistant
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Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 6:15 PM on 06.13.10 |
->> I have been using Windows smartphones forever, I just upgraded from the HTC Touch Pro (ATT Fuze) to the HTC Touch Pro 2 (ATT Tilt2) and my brother has an austrailian HD2 on ATT, and the HD2 is hands down one of the fastest nicest phones I have put my hands on, the device he has is slightly different the the US TMO phone (different ROM size I think)
It is a step up from the current top of the line Windows phone from ATT, I would look strongly at the Windows phones they are easily patched and modified and the user iterated OS's are MUCH nicer then the stock Phone co. OS. The one I am running by an outfilt called energy, is a Windows 6.5 and it has bundled Wifi hotspot, as well as numerous other patches and tweaks. It runs faster and does more, and unlike the apple hardware the windows platformed phones are truly unlocked, nothing checks in, and you can put whatever you like.
VZW has the Touch Pro2 I would upgrade the OS to 6.5 I think it is a much nicer OS |
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Aleksi Lepisto, Photographer
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Sacramento | CA | United States | Posted: 6:15 PM on 06.13.10 |
->> You can tether on your Android if you go into root access and enable it. There are instructions online. You don't need to pay for an app.
It allows for everything except https.
Been doing it since I got my G1. |
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Gil Batzri, Photographer, Assistant
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Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 6:36 PM on 06.13.10 |
->> @Aleksi:
So you can't really sign into anything secure when tethered? that seems a drag |
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