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Member Page Update (or not)
Willis Glassgow, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Florence | SC | USA | Posted: 8:10 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I often browse through SS member pages to look at images of folks that might be doing work for us in the future. I am always amazed at the ones that have not updated their page in something like 1400 days. I thought, "WOW, Why wouldn't update your page more often than every 3-4 yrs.".....I then got the member list out and found out that there are some people that have not updated their page in like nearly 2900 days. ........that's almost 8 YEARS!!!!.....This is not a rant or criticism of any kind. Nor do have sleepless nights because of this. I actually find it quite humorous. It's just that WHY have the page and pay the member fees if your page does not have some current images?????........ I have to chuckle about it. What do all of you think about this? |
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
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Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 8:20 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> You are thinking of this like a business and clearly many of the members here are not doing this full-time to make a living or they would update. But if this is to be more of a portfolio of what you can do, updating is not as critical in my opinion. Their pages should still show you what they can do. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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->> Willis,
My SportsShooter page is not used to attract clients, nor is it my portfolio.
I use the SS forums, I also use the private galleries at times for quick galleries for various reasons. So, while I lasted updated my gallery 110 days ago, its not a priority for me. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 8:43 AM on 04.22.10 |
->> To each his own.
Stanley...there are several very seasoned and long-time professionals that have NEVER updated their member pages.
I'm a full-time shooter and this is my only source of income but I rarely update.
Delane
http://www.dccorporateheadshots.com/ |
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 9:11 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I personally LOVE blogging and updating my page. Its as much for me, as it is for anyone else. |
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Landon Finch, Photographer
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Colorado Springs | CO | USA | Posted: 9:57 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> Changing your images doesn't improve your SEO ;-) |
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
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La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 10:24 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I try to update my member page as often as I could but I would like to see some improvements on the interface. Maybe a Java type interface that supports easily rearranging the order of the images via drag and drop and one that automatically hooks up to the IPTC information on the file so that the images could be easily captioned. |
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Randy Sartin, Photographer
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Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 11:19 AM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I just learned yesterday that Photoshelter has "Post to Sportsshooter" function, still working on setting that up but if the captions export correctly I think that will be a very easy way to stay updated. |
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 11:38 AM on 04.22.10 |
->> Yeah. Not sure what the 'huh' is for, but whatever.
I have seen amazing work on some SS pages and I absolutely would not have come across them as photographers in this vast ocean of media outlets, had they not updated their gallery. Hence I feel it is very much worth the minute amount of time to update a 10 picture gallery every few months. Each to his own, as was mentioned above. |
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
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Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 12:43 PM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> My opinion is this: Many of the updates I look at are "Hey look! I shot something!" I roll my gallery over when I have something I personally think is worth sharing. This reduces the rate at which I update to perhaps every six weeks or so. This time of the year, finding updates loaded with pitchers and batters is fairly easy, so I won't go there. More high school baseball isn't going to stand out in the crowd. Perhaps lax, track, or dirt track racing will go in my next batch. |
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Derick Hingle, Photographer
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Hammond | LA | USA | Posted: 1:25 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> Randy,
The photoshelter option works great, first you customize the order on your photoshelter gallery and make sure you fill out the object name that will give each photo a name for your SS gallery. The system imports the caption and you have an instant update. But if you don't give your photos an object name you won't be listed on the recently updated on the front page. I update fairly often because of this photoshelter option it takes less than a minute to post the update. |
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Peter Huoppi, Photographer
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New London | CT | USA | Posted: 1:34 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> I've thought about this recently when I noticed that I hadn't updated very often, and my current images are personal, rather than professional, in nature.
My career has changed pretty drastically since I first joined. Back then I was a freelancer two years out of college looking for advice and to get my work out there. I landed a few gigs based on contacts through my page. Now, I have a full-time job doing more video than photography. I barely have time to consider freelance work (check out my member gallery if you want to know why).
Though I'm not using my member page as a way to get work, I still feel I get a great value from my membership in this community. |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 2:54 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> Because my shooting is somewhat different than most people here, I don't update as often, maybe every few months. I wait until I have a theme or project that might be of interest and fun.
There is something I have in mind right now so will do in the next day or so. |
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
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Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 4:03 PM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> Personally I would update more if was a little more convenient. In this day and age I don't know why the uploader can't automatically resize the photos larger than 256kb and pull the cutline information from the IPTC description field. |
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Mark Sobhani, Photographer
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San Antonio | TX | USA | Posted: 4:10 PM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> Maybe they're out making photos. |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 4:30 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> I update my member page like clockwork -- every 1-3 years -- whether I have good images or not!
To be frank about it, I'm a staff editor/photographer and am not looking to gain freelance work from my member page. Also over the last couple of years since I moved into more administrative duties I haven't shot much outside of weekly NFL and NHL so unless I do something completely different, like the Olympics of my last update, I really don't care to spend the time editing and updating.
After 25+ years of doing this I've made a lot of contacts and even though I rarely do freelance work anymore I still have friends and associates I've met over the years call to ask me to shoot something or recommend someone who can.
Like Fish, this is not my portfolio, and I am a member to browse the boards and offer constructive (hopefully) advice on issues I'm familiar with and to every now and then check the classifieds etc.
Many people have used my member page to get in touch with me for work or asking questions on issues that I deal a lot with and that is what I expect from SS.
I think you'll note that more than a few of the people who never update their page are well-respected shooters who don't need the extra publicity or promotion to find work. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 7:21 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> Peter,
Feel free to cross two towns over and document me chasing three kids around a two story house with a broken ankle. From what I understand its rather amusing to watch. There is an angle Sean never envisioned you shooting :0)
Geo,
You're age is showing, you're sounding more and more like David Cantor every day (I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not :0) ) |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 8:59 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> Fish,
Let me tell about how we used to do it. If there wasn't enough light we pulled out the T-bar and flash powder and made our own light!
:-) |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 9:04 PM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I guess my overall point would be that everyone uses SS.com for different things and for many doing status updates is not a high priority. A little obvious but it's been a long day and I can't be more creative now. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 9:35 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> I've have received comments from countless editors that have either contacted and/or hired a photographer through their ss.com member page over the years...including the publication I work for.
Also countless photographers have told me about jobs they probably wouldn't have been contacted for if it were not for their ss.com member page.
Sure there are some members that don't use their page to it's fullest or "consider it a portfolio" or an avenue to get clients.
That's too bad for them.
You're a member, why not take fullest advantage of the great resources and features that Grover, Jason and Brad have provided you?
The other area where your ss.com member page plays into...a secondary source to confirm whether you get that freelance gig, job offer or internship. I've used it many times as a rescource tool to help me decide to hire someone or recommend them.
Obviously many have their photos sit on their page for great lengths of time.
But if you are fishing (grin) for a job, freelance work, an internship or just getting some promotional value or recognition... every little bit helps.
(And that little bit can often make the difference.)
But, like I said, it's a personal choice...
Nuff Said!
(Tapped out on my iPhone so live with the typos Bubba!) |
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Monty Rand, Photographer
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Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 10:08 PM on 04.22.10 |
| ->> I just updated a few weeks ago. Before that it was about 5-6 months maybe longer. I agree on the uploading should be easier comment. Maybe a lightroom or iphoto export option?? |
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 11:27 PM on 04.22.10 |
->> Randy,
I also update through PhotoShelter and think it is super convenient. And at the same time I can also post a link of that current PhotoShelter image gallery to facebook and twitter.
I am shooting minor league baseball and some of the players come here to see the images.
As was said by others, many people use SportsShooter, PhotoShelter, facebook and twitter in different ways. I believe they can all work together. |
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Danny Munson, Photographer
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San Dimas | Ca | United States | Posted: 12:28 AM on 04.23.10 |
| ->> It is a pain in the butt interface. I don't know how many times I have closed the window on accident when I was almost done updating. |
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Willis Glassgow, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Florence | SC | USA | Posted: 8:45 AM on 04.23.10 |
->> MAN!!!!...You folks are WAYYYY to serious.....You gotta lighten up and have fun a little....I don't update my page very often either. Once time I went almost 2 years without updating, but the point was that some of these people went nearly 8 years without updating. That's funny. I'm not critical of them. I just think its funny. I'm sorta making fun of them a little.
As for the person who said,"Maybe they're out making photos?"....that's like saying I didn't have time to email you back. I've been so busy. Everyone knows that's crap, but we ALL use that excuse. As for me, I'm shooting photos too. I drive 50,000 miles a year, work 80+ hrs a week and cover 200+ games a year. So not many people are busier than me.
As for getting Huh?s....I get them too and I look at it as a badge of honor. Have a great weekend folks!!!!! |
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
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La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 10:53 AM on 04.23.10 |
->> Posted: 10:24 AM Yesterday
->> I try to update my member page as often as I could but I would like to see some improvements on the interface. Maybe a Java type interface that supports easily rearranging the order of the images via drag and drop and one that automatically hooks up to the IPTC information on the file so that the images could be easily captioned.
Posted: 1:25 PM Yesterday
->> Randy,
The photoshelter option works great, first you customize the order on your photoshelter gallery and make sure you fill out the object name that will give each photo a name for your SS gallery. The system imports the caption and you have an instant update. But if you don't give your photos an object name you won't be listed on the recently updated on the front page. I update fairly often because of this photoshelter option it takes less than a minute to post the update.
I don't have Photoshelter and have no thoughts of getting it yet, I hope there are plans to upgrade the interface. |
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Al Goldis, Photographer
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East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 11:54 AM on 04.23.10 |
->> There is a bug in the Member Index page, at least for some senior members, and Last Updated isn't always accurate there.
For example, there is a three year discrepancy on Last Updated between the Member Index page and my actual member page. I obviously don't update very often but some of those huge numbers on the Member Index page might not be accurate.
In the early days, I remember updating several times with no change in Last Updated. |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 2:34 PM on 04.23.10 |
| ->> The process of updating photos on SS is a pain in the ass. Otherwise I'd do it more often. I just feel like updating my website is time better spent. |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 3:08 PM on 04.23.10 |
| ->> Agreed, updating is a little time consuming, I just did mine so it reminded me of that. But I always feel better about it after I get it done :) |
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 5:39 PM on 04.23.10 |
| ->> Fish, I'll bring the entire staff over to see the broken-ankle-child-chasing scene ... it sounds quite humorous. |
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 04.23.10 |
->> The OP seems upset that people aren't updating their pages as per his expectations? Hmmmmm.
Personally, in the past year I’ve shot tens of thousands of shots of mostly:
1) Countless portraits, especially senior portraits, that I don’t really want to put on this site
2) High volume sports shots that I consider quite boring
So hey, it’s my world!
I still get occasional calls for work. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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| | | Posted: 6:04 PM on 04.23.10 |
->> Sean,
Yea, esspecially once you throw the dogs into the mix with the three kids around bed time when its all me, all alone, in a two story house.
I'm pretty sure John Cleese has written this. First I 'radically' dislocated my ankle (something just doesn't sound as fun as you'd think). 10 days later I broke my ankle (because healing from the dislocation just wasn't enouh)... about 10 days after that I managed to dislocate it again while in the cast (because breaking it, following the dislocation just wasn't entertaining enough for the kids).
I am sure this isn't what Sally had in mind for creating multi-media around local stories :0) |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 6:09 PM on 04.23.10 |
->> Fish,
You couldn't just "conservatively" dislocate your ankle? You just had to be a "radical." (Or did the DHS kindly dislocate it for you to keep you from blogging?)
Bert, I have used member pages to find photographers in areas I needed a freelancer -- so, yes, it does work for that.
But in my current job I'm not fishing much for myself. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 6:32 PM on 04.23.10 |
->> Fish -
Have to ask. Do they make plaid casts? |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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->> Geo,
I was channeling the wisdom of Bernie Sanders when I first attempted to defy the combined forces of gravity , physics & geometry.
For future reference, should you be offered conscious sedation to snap your ankle back into place take it. I chose to skip the conscious sedation to get out of the ER quicker and really wish I had taken the sedated option instead.
Mark,
The first cast (I was in an AirCast, not a hard cast originally) was just black. The one they put on yesterday, after my 3rd FDGB (fall down go boom) is now two-tone, black & green - http://tweetphoto.com/19625056
So no ... no red-neck plaid cast. If I find having the black showing below the pant leg allows me to blend in and hide from the DHS easier :0) |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 9:54 PM on 04.23.10 |
| ->> I don't update very often at all because I don't have the flexibility to take on much if any freelance. I live in a small market so the probability of paying editorial work is very low. I have a full-time job and I'm not a good self-promoter. I do look at the profiles of people I know when they update. And I look at profiles as a means to screen freelancers for our magazine. If your photos or website don't have magazine type work, I'll probably skip ya'. Someone who shows that has location lighting skills is the type I'm usually looking for. |
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