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Apple Updates MacBook Pro Line
Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 11:26 AM on 04.13.10 |
->> Looks nice.
Except...
10 hour battery?
riiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhhhtttttttt ! ! ! ! ! |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 11:47 AM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> i5 or i7 with 8 GB RAM ... that's some very nice portable resources! |
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Garrett Hubbard, Photographer
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Washington | D.C. | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> i7 chip option and automatic graphics chip switching. pretty sweet! |
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Kirby Yau, Photographer, Assistant
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San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 12:35 PM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> No i5 or i7 love for the 13-inch MBP unfortunately. |
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Aric Becker, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Olympia | WA | United States | Posted: 1:58 PM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> Just my luck, bought a 17" MBP 28 days ago!! |
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Shawn Lynch, Photographer
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New York | New York | USA | Posted: 2:02 PM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> Yikes, anti glare now costs $150. It was only $50 on the last generation. |
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Mike Carlson, Photographer
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Bayonet Point | FL | USA | Posted: 3:24 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> I'm looking at upgrading to one of these new ones, but am wondering - is the anti-glare screen really worth the $150 upgrade? I personally hate the glare off the "regular", but have heard mixed reviews on the anti-glare...
Thanks to all who will confuse/conflict me more, I'm sure. |
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
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Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 3:30 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> The Antiglare option on the new 15-inch MacBook Pro is more then just removing the glossy now. It also includes upgrading the resolution of the screen.
The standard resolution on the new MBP15 is 1440 x 900 while the Hi-Res Antiglare at $150 (or Hi-Res glossy at $100) are 1680 x 1050 pixels.
So the Antiglare option is still $50 however it now also requires the $100 Hi-Res upgrade at the same time. |
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Devin Boldt, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 3:43 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> Aric, I think it's the norm to buy a mac only to have an update released shortly after. You may want to call or go to an Apple store and see if they will allow you to return your current MBP for the latest and greatest.
I think that Apple has allowed this in the past; especially since you bought your current computer less than a month ago, there would probably be a good chance of them allowing you to do so.
Devin |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 3:50 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> Aric,
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
Read It, Know it, love it.
As for returns, you may be able to get a credit or something, since you are within 30 days, but it will depend on the manager. |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 4:21 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> Bryan- Actually that is a true advertisement... with caveats. I think mine advertised 7 hour battery life but I've gotten 11 hours out of it before because I had the brightness turned all the way down and was only working on an article the whole time (flight from Moscow to JFK).
Since that isn't processor intensive and there is near nil video card usage it strums along just fine. Photomechanic and Photoshop on the other hand are battery killers. Just opening up a folder of 1000 photos is akin to knifing a tire in terms of how much battery gets sapped.
I also have a theory that if you are working on something like a document, HTML coding or anything else that is black text on a white screen, that if you invert the screen (white text on black) you'll further increase how much usable time you have on your charge. |
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
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Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 5:37 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> Yes, I think the batteries will meet their advertised endurance as long as the monitor is turned all the way down, no processes are running, the computer is on a flat surface, in the dark, in an 80 degree room, and there is no full moon.
:)
I love my Mac. I'm just messing around. It may almost be time for me to do an upgrade. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 6:00 PM on 04.13.10 |
->> I just returned from the Apple Store, Apple Care x 3 years is still a good deal (IMHO) regardless of the actual computer. My 15" MBP now has a new battery, my power supply has a new AC plug and I'm a happy camper.
I am bummed that Apple no longer offers the matte screen as a basic choice, so with the help of Apple Care my MBP will keep on keepin' on for a while longer. |
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Mike Greener, Photographer
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Fairfield | CA | USA | Posted: 6:41 PM on 04.13.10 |
| ->> Just purchased the 15in MacBook Pro i7 model with the anti glare. I've been rocking my PowerBook G4 for way too long. Finally Apple comes through. I'm a week away from bliss. |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 2:51 AM on 04.14.10 |
->> I've been waiting for this. My 15" MacBook Pro (pre-unibody) needs yet another logic board replacement, I'm on logic board #3 now so that means they should be giving me a new whole new laptop since this would make the 3rd major logic board failure for my computer (2 Nvidia GPU problems, this time audio-in is dead).
This older MBP has been a lemon and hopefully they'll upgrade me to a new MBP unibody this summer when I send it in yet again for AppleCare. I'm going to limp along for a couple of months so they clear-out their stock of the older unibodies and hopefully I get a brand spankin' new one.
I recommend that if you do buy AppleCare just do a search on Ebay, it's much cheaper than buying it from Apple or elsewhere. |
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Michael Strong, Photographer
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 10:06 PM on 04.14.10 |
| ->> I picked up my first MacBook Pro today. I got the 15" with the i5 processor. Seems great so far. |
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Mike Greener, Photographer
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Fairfield | CA | USA | Posted: 11:56 PM on 04.14.10 |
| ->> Is that legit to buy it on ebay? I am a bit skeptic. How could people sell it for so much less than Apple? |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 12:31 AM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> Yes, it's legit to buy AppleCare on Ebay. I even talked to an authorized Apple service provider and she said that's the best place to buy it cheap. |
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Stew Milne, Photographer
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Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 12:35 AM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> I second Mike's question. How is that possible? Grey market Applecare? |
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 04.15.10 |
->> I'm guessing that retailers get AppleCare packages at wholesale prices from Apple and these folks just take a much smaller cut than someone peddling it in a store to go with your shiny new Mac.
Or it could also be that there's a special wholesale price for AppleCare that's supposed to be sold with new computers, like how you can buy Windows OEM versions on Ebay that have the COA and all.
I guess you could ask one of the sellers on Ebay. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 12:34 PM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> Two grand for a laptop? |
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Michael Strong, Photographer
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Lubbock | TX | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> That's about what mine came to after a new case and extra power supply. I've just finished installing all my software. Gotta love VMware. |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 1:25 PM on 04.15.10 |
->> David-
Ah but there in lies the beauty. You aren't really paying $2000 for a laptop, you're really paying about $500. The other $1500 goes to buy you piece of mind that:
A: It works out of the box.
B: It works with all your other toys out of the box.
C: It works exactly like your old computer an hour out of the box
D: It won't get herpes or the sniffles from some email attachment your bother-in-law sends you.
E: It will do your taxes and wash your dog.
F: It will provide entrance in to Heaven, Jannat, Valhalla, the next Existential Plane, (for fun, look up the Pastafarian's version of heaven) or whatever afterlife your religion celebrates because the Mac is nice and works with everything.
G: It won't s**t itself on Millenium Eve.
H: No blue screen of death. Instead you just quit out a program.
I: Everything is backwards, forwards, sideways, and multi-dimensionally compatible.
J: You'll never need to call tech support unless your brain packs up and takes a vacation in Cabo.
K: You're buying the best of the best of what componants are currently on the leading edge of the technology curve. (Most PC's on the other hand (Dell/Gateway especially) purchase bulk bins of spare parts that weren't used when they were new 6 months ago. When you get a part for 10% of it's original cost, you're going to be able to charge lower rates.)
The list goes on but my Mac and I are going to go frolic in some wild flowers. |
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Butch Miller, Photographer
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Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 1:39 PM on 04.15.10 |
->> Yes ... the price of admission for a Macbook Pro may seem high ... however ... the useful lifespan, and relative usefulness as a system overall seems to be greater when compared to other options.
I just retired my Powerbook G3 Pismo last year ... after nearly a full decade of use ... it is still going strong ... although it lost it's usefulness when dealing with current software and couldn't chug out large RAW files, it still did a fine job for a second machine for email, surfing, accounting and other tasks ... so amortizing it's original cost of $1900 new in 2001 ... I really do think I received my money's worth on the investment.
Now it is relegated to running a slideshow attached to a LaCie Electron Blue IV monitor in my front window .... so I'm still getting some bang for the buck.
Now I realize that other less expensive hardware could have survived as long ... but ... I am very pleased working with the Apple OS and hardware ... |
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Neil Turner, Photographer
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Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 1:41 PM on 04.15.10 |
->> Very good list Thomas...
Just ordered mine - which will be my sixth Mac laptop over the last 16 years. I have never had to get a new one due to malfunction - it has always been due to exponential growth in the demands of the data we throw at them.
The old MBP is 3 years old and still working OK but the 2 GB RAM limit on it means that 5D MkII files are a little slow to work with if you have more than a dozen in the edit.
The price did make me a little sad but I went with almost every upgrade known to man and UK prices are always a little higher anyway. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 1:58 PM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> What Thomas Witte lists is the best summation I've read about why you should buy a Mac. I've been using one since 1984. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 04.15.10 |
->> Thomas,
I currently run a department where we support just over 200 people using both platforms. In our ten live trucks we have MBPs with Final Cut and Matrox MX02's. In our dozen or so edit bays we have G5 towers with MX02's, each with a pair of cinema displays. The rest are a variety of PCs.
Guess what? They all break at some point or another.
PC maintenance is as easy or as hard as you want to make it, just like Mac maintenance. With both platforms we have an equal percentage of problems on any given week. With the PCs, we just reimage them (files are backed up on servers) and keep going. I have a half a dozen new PC laptops sitting on a shelf, each cost around $600-$700 in quantity. If one of our laptops rolls over or someone catches a virus, my IT guy reimages the hard drive and it's back to the races while the broken one is fixed.
We work in a mission critical environment, so we also have to have spare MBPs on hand. But we can't afford to keep $2,000 new ones on the shelf. Usually we keep a couple of older ones on standby so we can roll them into service until the dead one comes back from Apple or we get a chance to drive to the genius bar (if they have the parts). With Macs we beat the crap out of them until they physically can't go on because they are so damn expensive to replace. If a PC gets a little long in the tooth, we can pitch it and get another one for under the magic $1,000 cap expense line.
For all of our main systems, we use PCs because they are cheap and easy to configure with the wide variety of hardware and software needed to do what we do. PCs give you options. If one vendor drops an ExpressPort on a lower-end model like Apple did (thank you, Steve) or glossies up the screens (thanks again, Steve), we can simply buy from another vendor.
PCs have driver issues. If we switch vendors we generally have to spend some time coming up with a compatible configuration and building a reference image to keep on hand to clone the machines. Sometimes this can be a pain in the butt. But we also run into compatibility issues when you start to mix MX02's, FCP and Snow Leopard. It's all part of the gig. From someone who works everyday with both platforms, I'd call them equal in terms of maintenance hassle.
But wait, you say! You're using them differently than a photographer! They don't change as much as you guys do. Well, that's true. But you CAN set up a PC for stable operation without virus issues if you spend an hour doing a little reading and configuring. It's not that hard. For your time you keep a thousand dollars or more in your pocket.
All machines die. If you use it to make money, you need to have an entire spare machine on hand as a backup. Apple doesn't set up Genius Bars at the Super Bowl. If you're a freelancer trying to pay the rent, it's far cheaper to back yourself up with a PC than it is a Mac. Macs are cool, they work well, but they break just like any other piece of technology. If you use it everyday, it will break.
Personally, I love Macs. I love the engineering, the industrial design, the attention to detail. But they're overpriced. They're marketed well, and they look cool. But just be honest about it - they aren't the craftsman tool of computers...that really hasn't been invented yet. When they break, you hate them just as much as a PC. And just like all technology, they will break when you most need them to work. |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 6:39 PM on 04.15.10 |
| ->> My bad. When you asked "two grand for a laptop?" I honestly thought you'd never looked at them because they've been priced in mid $2000's since the G3 came out over a decade ago. |
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Leslie Billman, Photographer
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Annapolis | Md | USA | Posted: 10:00 AM on 04.24.10 |
| ->> I'm about to retire my 3 year old MBP 17 inch model for a new one. Will the old model power adapters work with the new model? I bought about 4 of them to easily move from location to location - house, office, upstairs, etc. Would hate to have to also get a whole new set of those. Plse advise. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 12:15 PM on 04.24.10 |
| ->> The magnetic ones are the same as they were a few years ago; there have been smaller changes in the power output, but if you're using one of the 80W ones it will still be able to handle a 50W-60W computer; you just can't have the computer trying to pull 80W out of a 50W power supply. |
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John Korduner, Photographer
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Baton Rouge | LA | United States | Posted: 1:47 PM on 04.24.10 |
->> I switched to Mac 2 years ago, and I love the OS...but piece of mind isn't a concept I'm familiar with.
In 18 months I've had 5 motherboards replaced and I'm currently my third MPB replacement. During bowl season I didn't go anywhere without a backup, and even had to do a Time Machine restore at the Sugar Bowl, that fortunately completed 45 minutes before kickoff.
...So, as far as hardware goes, I'm still rather skeptical about the premium Mac charges. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:17 PM on 04.24.10 |
| ->> I think if you're in this business (PJ) and use anything other than a mac you're asking for trouble, pain and heartache. I have been around too many photographers using PC's and watched as their heads almost exploded when for no reason the thing froze up and died. Macs on the other hand? In sixteen years never had a problem that couldn't be easily fixed. Dropped a couple of them, no problem. Spilled a glass of wine in one about nine years ago....again no problem (after rinsing it with cold water and putting it in the oven for several hours it was fine). Was in Iraq and saw a soldier step on an Ibook belonging to another shooter....although the screen was screwed they were still able to work around it and continue doing their job. I really find it hard to understand the logic of "If a PC gets a little long in the tooth, we can pitch it and get another one for under the magic $1,000 cap expense line". Sorry I'd rather have the piece of mind when shooting an assignment on deadline that my computer is going to work without wondering if it's going to stop working because I held my mouth the wrong way when I was working on it. sure apple has done some irritating things over the years but weigh that against the fail rate of PC's and I think you'll be singing the praises of mac all the way home. |
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
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Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 3:47 PM on 04.24.10 |
->> I'm posting this from another, similar thread a few months ago:
->> Just my personal experience, take it for what it's worth:
I previously was a PC user, having burned through many laptops and desktops, and I'm not hard on a system. I bought a MacBook Pro over 2.5 years ago. It has given me NO, and I mean NO problems. Not a single hiccup or crash. If I had remained on PC, my history would have told me that I would have had to rebuild the machine from scratch at least once per year due to unrecoverable crashes/malfunctions, and I'm sure I'd have had to replace it at least once.
A few months ago I bought a new 21.5" iMac. I did the Migration Assistant thing to set it up and within 45 minutes I had a desktop clone of my MBP with all files and applications up and running with NO problem. I didn't have to re-install anything. It was seamless. It would have been hours upon hours of work if I had done it on PC.
True, you get what you pay for....and my conversion to Mac was worth every penny by having no frustrations over my computer.
Kevin |
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George Holland, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 4:47 PM on 04.24.10 |
| ->> I am a recent convert to Mac and the 5 month old refurbished MBP I bought is in the shop having the logic board replaced for the second time. Does Apple have some kind of lemon policy? At best I am on my third logic board and possibly more since I don’t know what Apple did when they refurbished it. I’m starting to think there is something else causing the logic boards to go bad. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 7:58 PM on 04.24.10 |
| ->> George, as with so many things nowadays, you are the lone ranger. Sorry for your problems. With all due respect and I hope this doesn't sound rude but maybe you shouldn't have bought a "refurbished" unit. who refurbished it? did it safe you a lot of money? I just don't think "used" computers are the same as used cars.... |
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George Holland, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 8:24 PM on 04.24.10 |
->> Purchased direct from Apple On-line store.
“Apple Certified Refurbished; We test and certify all Apple refurbished products and include a 1-year warranty.” |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 11:02 PM on 04.24.10 |
->> Changed over to Apple 5 years ago after using PC's since the late 1980's. I have had no failures or problems ever since. Totally trouble free.
My years with PC's and Microsoft products were filled with crashes, blue screens of deaths, finding drivers that didn't work, reformatting hard drives and reinstalling everything, more sleepless nights working to get things running than I can recount. It probably took a year or two out of my life. I hate the "PC" and Microsoft products.
Apple has proven itself to me and has been a trustworthy partner. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 11:50 PM on 04.24.10 |
->> Sorry I'd rather have the piece of mind when shooting an assignment on deadline that my computer is going to work without wondering if it's going to stop working because I held my mouth the wrong way when I was working on it.
...and I'm all for cost-effective backup systems for WHATEVER assignment I'm on, or whatever systems I'm supporting. To me, that's the best piece of mind you can have...if what I have fails, I can go to a backup.
Which is the point I made above outside of your out-of-context quote: It's cheaper to be redundant with a PC platform. If you feel you don't need redundancy, best of luck to you.
All computers fail, all technology fails. Only a fool believes otherwise, regardless of what the label says. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:06 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> See David, you proved my point.
"if what I have fails, I can go to a backup"
Sure everything fails at one time or another. I'm not a fool as you not so casually suggested. I go with a very established law of averages. Having never seen a Mac fail, let me reiterate, NEVER, and seeing PC's crash and burn on numerous occasions I am more than happy to tie my allegiance to Apple. I will continue to stand by them and suggest them to anyone in our field. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 12:20 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> I go with a very established law of averages
Well, not really. If this were the case, you'd be exceptionally concerned about your very next gig, because as you yourself said - everything fails.
Statistically, it's an anomaly that you've never seen a Mac fail. That means for you it's not only inevitable...it's highly likely. :-) |
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Chris Large, Photographer
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Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 12:22 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> My 3 year lease is up with my 17" macbook pro with a $0.00 buyout....I was thinking.....I'll upgrade now to the latest and greatest version...but then....my unit is still working just as fast, just as solid as day one. It is the only computer I use, has traveled the world, has lasted 3 times longer than any PC that I've ever had, I do weekly back ups so I know I'm protected if it should fail.
So I'm thinking....I'll keep this for awhile more - it doesn't owe me anything but it keeps on doing what I need to put food on my table.
Another interesting thought - When you think about the fact that your computer is second only to your cameras in making your living, the investment of about $100 a month over 3 years for a solid product seems to me to be a pretty good deal.
C |
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Smiley Pool, Photographer
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 12:32 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> Chuck, I'm not trying to start anything, and you know I'm one of your biggest fans. I'm also a big fan of loyalty - though not a fan boy. But in fairness to folks like George, I think I should share a different experience from yours.
I'm on a staff with 12+ MacBook pros that are going on three years old now and just in the past year we've had multiple logic board failures, multiple graphics card failures and multiple hard drive failures.
This isn't going to make me freak out and start a Mac vs. PC thing. I'm a solid Mac guy for two decades. But I'm also not going to try and pretend that any piece of hardware is perfect - or any manufacture. It just is what it is.
To George's question -- yes -- we've seen a problem with logic boards on at least three machines. We've also had, I think, four graphics cards go out. Those were all replaced by Apple for no charge.
So while nobody is offering us replacement machines (per your lemon question) they have been good about the repairs. As for the graphics cards, it's almost seems like a 'soft' recall.
Bottom line - migration assistant and time machine work great - so keep your machines backed up folks. Kevin, Chuck and Ian might also want to knock on some wood if they've never had a failure. I've seen plenty of them. But that's not going to cause me to second guess the system. |
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Nick Lucero, Photographer
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San Luis Obispo | CA | USA | Posted: 1:42 AM on 04.25.10 |
| ->> I agree with you Chuck, I have yet to see a Mac crash in my lieftime. I currently own a Powerbook G4 which just celebrated its 6th birthday now and it works as well today as it did right out of the box. With basic maintenance and care a Mac will last longer than most household pets, you can not say the same about a PC. |
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Mike Carlson, Photographer
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Bayonet Point | FL | USA | Posted: 6:40 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> I currently work in a school district that is exclusively Mac, and can certainly confirm that Macs fail...in fact, I have a lab of 30 of them in my classroom, and have had the logic board of 2 of the 24" iMacs purchased last summer go this year alone. HOWEVER, I have had infinitely less issues in terms of software/operating/networking with the Macs than I did in my previous Windows/PC based school.
I have also had two personal laptops go - one hard drive the other a logic board.
Anyway - I just picked up the newest MBP - the 15", i7 with the hi-res, anti-glare, and to answer my own question posed above, the screen for me is MUCH easier to work with than the standard 'glossy'...and the extra pixels are appreciated. |
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Wally Nell, Photographer
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CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 9:31 AM on 04.25.10 |
->> Wherever I have dealt with photographers, I have seen people have failures on Mac. On PC as well, but not more or less than the Macs. Mac is definitely not the God of computers out there. In my opinion, if you spend the same amount of money on a PC, you will get the same if not better, performance and service from it. I have had PC's for around 10 years now. Only once did I have a failure on it and it was based on human error. I have never had virus problems, and they run fast enough for me. And yes, I upgraded every 3 or 4 years, and have one work horse laptop, and one laptop for traveling.
So I think it depends what you feel comfortable with. The one is not superior to the other, just different. At one stage I was thinking of getting a Mac, but honestly, why change if you know the one you have. It was at a time when my laptop screen went, and I had to have a machine right away to work. I did not care for the possible learning curve I would have had to go through. So, I purchased another PC laptop, and was able to get my work out right away. Right now, I cannot see any reason for me to even want a Mac! Everything works fine, peripherals work fine, software works fine, fast enough, ... what else can I say.
My honest opinion is that people buy Mac because it is the 'in-thing' and 'looks cool'. I really don't care about the latest in-thing or whether something looks cool or not. All I want is for it to work, for me to be able to make money with it, and for me to be comfortable with it. And that I am.
So, about 10 years, one human error based failure, and one broken screen. Not a bad history for a PC right?
So, Mac vs PC, what this thread turned out to be I guess; it is what you are comfortable with. One is not better than the other, just different. |
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Jeff Frings, Photographer
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Milwaukee | WI | USA | Posted: 10:14 AM on 04.25.10 |
| ->> We have about 20 17" MBPs and within the first six months we've had to replace 4 hard drives. Don't get me wrong I love the functionality of the trackpad as compared to the tiny little pad on most pcs. I hardly ever use the mouse even to edit video in FCP. I love the MBP, but I've learned that you pay a high premium for the advantages of the mac. If I was buying a laptop with my own $$ I don't know if it would be worth the extra money, but it would be close. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 10:23 AM on 04.25.10 |
| ->> I am one of the first 50,000 people to buy a Mac when they were introduced to the world during the Super Bowl in 1984 and I've been using Macs exclusively ever since. In 26 years I had two crashes due to hard drive failure. Not bad statistics, in my opinion. I'm looking at a MBP, 15 inch, i7 now to continue the trend. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 04.25.10 |
| ->> Sorry fellas, guess I didn't make it clear that I back up everything on another hard drive. Not so much worrying about a catastrophic failure....more worried about me doing something stupid and losing everything. It's nice to know that PC's apparently work better than I've been a witness to. |
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Nik Habicht, Photographer
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Levittown | PA | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 04.25.10 |
->> George isn't the Lone Ranger. A friend of mine works as a computer programmer. He received a new MacBook Pro ~ 2 years ago -- new, not refurbished. That computer is on its thrid logic board, with number four probably not too far off....
His take is that Apple's downfall lies in not cooling the boards/components enough.
In almost a decade of laptop use, I've never fried a motherboard, graphics card, processor, ram module, or hard drive....
Apple may have cutting edge hardware -- but they apparently don't know how to build a system with sufficient cooling.... |
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George Holland, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:44 PM on 04.25.10 |
->> In my opinion, the reliability of Mac’s are no better or worse than other business class PC’s. For whatever reason, I have had some bad luck that I assume is not typical. I would not put the mass market, consumer oriented laptops in the same category. This experience has not soured me on Mac’s and I would not hesitate buying another one in the future.
My MacBook is covered by the same Warranty as a new laptop and I have an Apple Care Warranty I purchased but am waiting to register in case I have another failure. Apple service has been very good and they said they consider replacing the MacBook Pro with a new one or a refund after a third major hardware failure. I have a PC backup so can get by in a pinch and my data is backed up so that is not a concern.
I’ve bought a number of refurbished products over the years, including a MacBook Pro for my daughter, a Dell Laptop and desktop, and an iPhone. All direct from the manufacturer with same as new warranty. I’ve never had a failure of any kind with any of them. Refurbished Mac’s seem to have one of the better reputations for quality control with many claiming in some respects, better than new due to a second complete QA process. I won’t link to the opinions but if you are interested, there are plenty available.
I have also built my last four desktop PC’s and other than a hard drive failure or two, they have performed flawlessly with great technical support. |
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