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OT-Best tournament ever; and there's more to come.
Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 12:21 AM on 04.06.10
->> I cannot remember an overall better tournament in the men's bracket. Wow! And what if that last shot had gone in for Butler? Can you IMAGINE????

And now, the women's game tomorrow is going to be a classic as well. Although UConn is the overwhelming favorite, Stanford can pull off the upset. They are the last team to beat UConn, and have only one loss this season; to UConn. They will be out for blood. Going to be a real good game!!
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Max Gersh, Photographer, Photo Editor
New Castle | IN | USA | Posted: 12:26 AM on 04.06.10
->> Agreed.
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 04.06.10
->> That was a good game tonight!!!

I was pulling for Butler to win but imagine if all those players who left after their first year for the NBA were still in college?

Imagine if we got to know OJ Mayo, Jordan Farmar, Kevin Love, Kevin Durrant, Derek Rose, etc., in college? This is the reason I don't watch college basketball. The best players tend to be freshmen and sophomores and the weak ones not going anywhere are the seniors.

Duke does not retire non-senior jersey numbers and other schools should follow. I guess they wont be any retiring of jerseys anytime soon.

Jeff
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Kevin Seale, Photographer
Crawfordsville | IN | United States | Posted: 1:40 AM on 04.06.10
->> Jeff, with all due respect, the reason to watch college basketball is because they play like a team and not as individuals. That is why the overall tourney was so fun this year. Lots of close games and lots of solid team basketball.

Let them go to the NBA. It is where they should be based on their skill. However, their absence does absolutely nothing to diminish the overall talent and competitiveness of NCAA D1 basketball.

Last year only 4 freshman and 9 sophomores were drafted out of the 4,000 or so D1 athletes. The largest number drafted (22) were seniors. You are missing a lot of really good basketball by choosing to not watch it because 0.1% of the potential players are in the NBA after only one season.

Kentucky and Kansas are both prime examples of how talent alone does not win a championship or beat a less talented group of individuals that play as a team.

BTW, Duke started 3 seniors and 2 juniors tonight.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Indiana | IN | USA | Posted: 1:51 AM on 04.06.10
->> Matt Howard of Butler went to the same high school I did and the town is very proud of the way he played and the way he conducts himself on the court. He's got a great, supportive family too. He'll be back for his senior year.
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 11:24 AM on 04.06.10
->> Phil, I hope you are right about tonight's game ... I can't imagine Stanford will be a Jeanette Pohlen coast-to-coast race from the win in the final seconds ... but close enough that the UConn starters have to be on the floor until the buzzer would be good enough for me.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:15 PM on 04.06.10
->> jeff, I gotta agree with kevin. if you don't like college basketball you'd better get your pulse checked.....8)
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Robert Scheer, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 12:35 PM on 04.06.10
->> Ditto, ditto, ditto.

I've never been in a more electrically charged basketball game. When that last shot clanked off the rim, the gasp gave me chills. The commentary I've seen has nailed it. One champion, two winners.

Off to the post tourney celebration at Hinkle in a bit. . .

If Butler had won, they would have had a six-mile parade from campus to downtown.
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 4:31 PM on 04.06.10
->> ...and Indianapolis would have had a party in the streets that makes Chapel Hill's Franklin Street look like a little girl's tea party.

I will never forget the day I pulled into Indy on a Sat. night in 1976 and people were throwing toilet paper, screaming, running through the streets, and found out later that Carmel High School had just won the state high school championship.
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 6:10 PM on 04.06.10
->> I guess here in LA, I am spoiled by the pro game and the elite athletes that play. Honestly, I have never really been a college basketball fan and here in LA with the Lakers, Clippers, UCLA basketball, and USC basketball, its hard to pull for a college team when the team changes every year and one of the pro teams win championships.

UCLA and USC lose top freshman and sophomore players every year to the NBA to the point that UCLA could hardly win a game this season and USC is on probation for the OJ Mayo situation. The Lakers have had their lineup intact for several years now. Except for a player here and there, they are pretty much the same team every year and they win championships.

UCLA would probably have won several championships if Kevin Love, Jordan Farmar, Trevor Ariza, Darren Collison, etc., would have stayed but they all leave, and with that goes my little love I had for the college game.

I do like college football though. Football players are too small to come out of HS to play pro football and there is a three year rule keeping them in college. Same rule in college baseball. In baseball, you need to choose weather you are going pro out of HS or if you are going to play your minimum three years at a school. Why can't there be the same rule with college basketball?

..... I did notice Duke started three seniors and two juniors. Probably why they won. The team has been together for at least three seasons.

.......4 freshmen and 9 sophomores is almost 20% of the NBA draft. The 22 that were seniors last year is just over a 33% of the draft where 20 years ago, that number was at around 80-90%. Most of the 4,000 D1 athletes in college basketball never have a remote chance of making it to the NBA because there are only 60 draft slots available and only 450 player slots in the NBA.

Who is the next college Lou Alcindor, Michael Jordan, Oscar Robinson, Walt Hazzard, Bill Walton, James Worthy, Patrick Ewing, Elgin Baylor, David Robinson, Wilt Chamberlain, Danny Manning, etc.? I guarantee you he will not be a senior and probably will come out of the NCAA as a freshman or sophomore.

Jeff
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J.J. Alcantara, Student/Intern
Baton Rouge | LA | USA | Posted: 6:51 PM on 04.06.10
->> Jeff,

College basketball is one of the most fun sports to watch and is probably my favorite sport to shoot.

But I do agree in that I dislike the one-and-done rule. It's not because I think it's ruining the college game (because I don't), but mainly because there won't be the UCLA-like dynasties anymore. The college game will forever be missing the Alcindors, Waltons or the Pistol Petes.

In the future, however, the college game may see a drop in talent if more high school players follow the footsteps of Brandon Jennings —> play in Europe for a year, get drafted and play in the pros. With Jennings' success, it could happen, but I can't say for certain. In addition to that, IF it does happen, the NBA could be affected if more players sign with Euro leagues then get stuck there (like Rubio); then those teams have wasted a draft pick — though it's not like the T-Wolves are going to miss another point guard.

But that's my $0.02/conspiracy.
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Robert Scheer, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 9:28 PM on 04.06.10
->> Jeff, I hear you. But I have to say, it's all about location. North Carolina and Kansas residents know what I'm talking about.

Until I moved to Indiana in '98, I really couldn't care less about college or high school basketball. I can't dribble or shoot to save my life, but the sport gets into your bones here. Sure the Colts are the biggest pro thing going, but the heart of Indiana was/is/always will be basketball.

After covering big schools in Northern California for a few years, the first prep game I shot in Indiana just blew me away. The skill of the kids here is freaky, and the average fan here understands the game on a profound level. Early-season high school match ups can get crowds well into the thousands.

From the last days of Bob Knight, to Purdue's great ladies teams a few years back, to Greg Oden's Lawrence North back to back to back state titles, to Butler's rise to prominence, it's been a fun ride.

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Eileen Blass, Photographer
xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 9:51 PM on 04.06.10
->> I've never covered a more amazing basketball game....It was basketball nirvana.
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