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Which sports workshop?
David Bailey, Photographer
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Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 03.23.10 |
->> I am looking to participate in 1 workshop in the next few months and looking for some feedback from those that have attended 1 of these.
Photography At The Summit with Dave Blac, et al.
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Working With Artists with Peter Read Miller?
I am wanting to fine tune my skills and shoot some things I have never shot. What do you like/dislike about each workshop?
Thanks! |
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Doug Steinbock, Photographer
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West Springfield | MA | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 03.23.10 |
| ->> the Rich Clarkson workshop is excellent. |
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Rick Yeatts, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 5:00 PM on 03.23.10 |
->> I went to the Rich Clarkson workshop in 1995 and it was excellent though it was during the Summer Olympics which was in it's last year. They always have a great staff and your sure to enjoy. I think it's limited to 60 people.
I've never been to a Peter Read Miller workshop. With his reputation and experience and the one on one experience you can go wrong. You have a tough choice.
I have never been to a SportShooter workshop either and they look excellent!!! |
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Jan Langsner, Photographer
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Edmonton | AB | Canada | Posted: 6:04 PM on 03.23.10 |
| ->> I went to the Peter Read Miller workshop a few years ago. Had a great time there, learned lots and every editor I dealt with at the the time said my work improved greatly. |
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Wally Nell, Photographer
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CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 6:19 PM on 03.23.10 |
| ->> Rick I remember seeing you there! |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 03.23.10 |
| ->> From what I've read about the curriculum the Sportsshooter workshop offers a phenomenal variety of sports in the week session. And bert gets some of the best in this field to instruct. |
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 6:50 PM on 03.23.10 |
->> I have always learned and grown as a shooter, plus had a blast, each time I have attended the Sports Shooter Academy. Participants and instructors are completely approachable, and I learned a tremendous amount from both. You get real shooting experience, complete flexibility and freedom, access to top gear and honest, useful, and insightful criticism at the end of each day. I heartily recommend the Sports Shooter Academy if you are able to get in!
Daniel |
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Adam Vogler, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Kansas City | Mo. | USA | Posted: 7:55 PM on 03.23.10 |
| ->> Ditto what Chuck and Daniel said. |
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Dennis Montgomery, Photographer, Assistant
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Ogden | UT | United States | Posted: 6:10 PM on 03.24.10 |
->> I attended the Sports Photography Workshop in 2008 amd highly recommend it. The variety and talent of the instructors absolutely first-rate. Joey Terrill and Dave Black's lighting lectures are worth the price alone.
Brett and Chris, who administer the details for Rich Clarkson, make it a very smoothly running workshop. In addition, the variety of sports you will have the opportunity to shoot is hard to top--major league baseball to motocross...and more.
Its a bargain and whatever your experience and background as a sports photographer,and you will defintitely be a better shooter for having attended this workshop. |
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Peter Gaby, Photographer
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Madison | WI | US | Posted: 5:41 PM on 03.26.10 |
->> David:
I've attended two of the Clarkson workshops, and both were excellent and very informative.
One of the nice features of Rich's workshops are the critique sessions every morning along with some one on one time with many of the instructors.
Granted, his workshops are not cheap - but they are well worth the money.
and I wholeheartedly agree with Dennis - both of Joey's and Dave's lighting sessions are great.
You can contact me David if you have any other questions.
Peter |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 9:43 PM on 03.26.10 |
->> I guess I am a little biased ...
http://sportsshooteracademy.com/videos/
Thanks to Nikon, Bill Pekala and Ronal Taniwaki for making the Sports Shooter Academy tuition-free for the students participating in this workshop the past two years.
And thanks to the faculty and staff for the upcoming SSA VII: Wally Skalij and Myung J. Chun from the Los Angeles Times, freelance photographer Rod Mar, Michael Goulding from the Orange County Register, Sean Halley from the San Diego Union Tribune, John W. McDonough from Sports Illustrated, Crystal Chatham from the Palm Springs Desert News and super-assistant Shawn Cullen.
Very special thanks to Matt Brown and Jordan Murph for their invaluable help in organizing and running The Academy.
Think Tank Photo and Samy's Camera are also big supporters of this wonderful and special educational program.
The countdown has started: Eleven days and counting! |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 11:03 PM on 03.26.10 |
->> I think you need to sit down and determine what you're looking for.
Now, I know that sounds stupid, but....
I've attended the Clarkson workshop once and it was a while ago. Lots of sports to shoot, but the guys that impacted me the most were Joey Terrill and Robert Seale and they weren't shooting sports - they were shooting portraits and their ability to teach me how to think about lighting and shoot portraits as well as sports had a profound and life changing impact on me and how and what I shoot. Good thing, too because all I've been shooting for the last month ARE portrait assignments. I LOVE doing them.
Better than that, I had a question about a image Robert Seale made several years ago at a Clarkson workshop a year before I was there. I emailed him ( this happened three weeks ago). Got a answer in less than an hour. I know Robert doesn't remember me, but I felt I could email him and get a response.. and I did. The one day Bob did his seminar at the Garden of the Gods, I was like a sponge. I tried to absorb everything.
Then there's Joey Terrill showing us how to shoot a swimmer in a small tank and the control room. Before the workshop, I had no idea...none. Today, if I get a assignment like that.. it's like.. ok.. I need a pad and a pencil.. let me sketch this out..
So, look at the list of instructors. Research their work. IF something shouts out at you, then you have your answer as to where to spend your time and money. All of them, whether it be Bert's Sportsshooter Academy, Clarkson's Sports Photography Workshop or whatever - you can't help but learn. But think about what you want to learn about now and then see which one best fits your needs.
You won't be sorry. |
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Eric Francis, Photographer
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Omaha | NE | United States | Posted: 11:05 PM on 03.26.10 |
->> dang bert, that was like listening to a NASCAR interview..... lol
I'd like to do the SS one some time myself. |
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Rafael Agustin Delgado, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Orange currently | Ca | USA | Posted: 12:00 AM on 03.27.10 |
->> +1 for SSA
Another nod for the coolest workshop out there |
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
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bay area | CA | | Posted: 4:09 PM on 03.28.10 |
| ->> It has been a few years I've been to both, AND to the SSA, its own special teaching adventure. They are qualitatively different events. Comparing the two workshops you asked about, for me personally, PRM's was more intimate experience: Because the crowd was smaller, you got to know people better, the ratio of talent-to-student was greater, and we-were-all-in-it-together. Peter is a generous, accessible teacher with great heart and wisdom, and Grant is funny as hell. Alan, now PhotoShelter, was a fellow-student. PRM's workshop was also Canon-oriented, a plus for someone who is considering a switch or wanting to push their existing skills with the brand to the max. Clarkson, on the other hand, was sponsored by Nikon and others, so the converse was true -- and as a Nikon shooter it held advantages for me. Clarkson's workshops are a huge production, exquisitely organized and managed after decades of practice. Note that the Sports and Summit workshops are highly different within themselves. The Sports one was highly competitive, perhaps reflecting the subject matter, with every man for himself. Fellow attendees could be ...er... aggressive about seeking time in critique (more than a few signing up for more than their allotment), or shmoozing with people of influence, stampeding to register for a workshop, or get loaner gear. The Summit workshop is little more mellow, as attendees are there with family members, etc. The evening events, open to the community and held at the Museum, were always good. No doubt things may have changed in the intervening years since my attendance at these workshops, and you can't go wrong --although you CAN go broke. Lucky you to have the choice. |
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Jeannette Merten, Photographer
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Oshkosh | WI | USA | Posted: 4:14 PM on 03.28.10 |
->> I asked myself that same similar question. That is why I applied and now attending SSA, which is just right around the corner leaving the 6th of April for CA. All the information (read/videos) about SSA is what caught my eye to hop on that train and get on-board. Choo, choo!
So looking forward this adventure. Hope my head doesn't explode from all the information I plan to cram in it.
Oh yeah, big kudos to Nikon for making it all possible. |
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William Guerro, Photographer
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Galloway | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:43 PM on 03.28.10 |
| ->> Last April at the Sportsshooter Academy the Staff that Bert put together was awesome and the icing on the cake was Dave Black being there. Super nice guy and a wealth of knowledge and he was more than willing to share it. |
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Rick Yeatts, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 9:36 PM on 03.28.10 |
| ->> Yes Wally I do remember despite my aging memory. |
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
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Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 5:13 AM on 03.29.10 |
->> Dennis and Michael,
You're absolutely right. Joey's lighting classes that escalate from basic to advanced lighting throughout the week is worth the price alone. He's forgotten more about photography than I'll ever know. You can get a taste of what his lectures are like by going here. http://tinyurl.com/4nseb He also does a lecture at the workshop called “Phone Call to Final Image, the Business of Freelance” which is invaluable.
Mark |
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