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Accepted sports shooting Protocols
Gerard Burkhart, Photographer
Valley Glen | CA | USA | Posted: 9:21 PM on 03.03.10
->> Trying to provide a handbook for sports shooting protocols by sport for students at Santa Monica College in Santa Monica Calif. Need to cover accepted positioning and access, behavior, lighting etc.

Established published organizational protocols are important to use as sources.

For example, the tennis protocols below have been worked out by adapting the International Tennis Photographers Association guidelines.

We need to establish similar for basketball, football, softball, swimming, track and field, cross country, volleyball, water polo, soccer.

Swimming and cross country/track are starting now --the others are longer term projects.

2010 Photographer Protocols for Tennis at Santa Monica College

Photographers are guests of the court and must behave in a manner that is safe for players and fans and conducive to uninterrupted play. Keep in mind that either teams head coach may object to photographer’s presence and if a photographer is causing a disruption, court officials can penalize the home team by deduction of points.

Accepted Practices are for "Home" games at Reed Park, in Santa Monica, Calif. You are a guest of the hosting team at "Away" games and different protocols may apply.

Additionally, at all times you are a representative of the Santa Monica College Corsair Publications, and must conduct yourself with the utmost courtesy and decorum.

Accepted Practices

-Go early and check with coaches and officials first.

-Up to two photographers may enter the court before play begins and take a position sitting on the ground with one photographer at each netposts.

-Once photographers take a position they should not move during active play. The only time photographers can move is when the players switch sides during a change over. No movement when gathering balls. Photographers should be back on the ground before play resumes.

-Never directly cross the court during a change over.

-No talking or loud noises whatsoever when on the court and no talking or loud noises when off the court that can be heard by players

-No cell phone use (cell phones off or on silent!) or any other distracting behavior that could interrupt play.

-No flash photography

- Exit court when match is over or during a changeover.

-Coaches/ players interview only before or after the end of the match.
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TD Paulius, Photographer
Orland Park | IL | USA | Posted: 2:25 PM on 03.04.10
->> GB: Go to www.ncaa.org and search under each sport championship in order to see what the NCAA sets forth for shooting zones/locations for respective championships.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 8:32 PM on 03.04.10
->> A futile endeavor in my very humble opinion and limited experience.

Too many variables.

Constant changes.

Personally I think two words are the place to start:

Common sense.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:46 PM on 03.04.10
->> Common sense...that about says it all. The question I have to ask is why in the world would anyone need a "handbook" to know basic rules of shooting sports in a public venue....
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 9:18 PM on 03.04.10
->> Already been written http://tinyurl.com/yjcqjpn
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 4:59 AM on 03.05.10
->> Common Sense
Already Written.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/commonsense/

http://books.google.com/books?id=OB1lxXWaiGQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=common+sense+ben+franklin&source=bl&ots=7-SMQ3DLUA&sig=Uknu_OjKAvRwogzx5ggtFtCMyV4&hl=en&ei=qtWQS_XFC4ScsgOm0fT8Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CB4Q6AEwCA#
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 3:53 PM on 03.05.10
->> Common sense?

Seems so ... counterintuitive, at least for several shooters I've "bumped into" (literally) over the years....
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 4:11 PM on 03.05.10
->> Jeff Brehm, are you referring to video? :~)

In all seriousness - while common sense may make sense to those of us who have it, many more people don't. Good luck Gerard. I'd be interested in reading it when you're done.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 4:13 PM on 03.05.10
->> Now let's be nice. Some things aren't written down anywhere.

As in the TV dish guy will stand in front of you, wherever you are on the field. As he works for the rights holder, it's not a reviewable play.
You may move from pit to pit during the break between innings, but only if there is room on the other side. No squeezing in after the fact.
Names on tape on the floor at basketball games are God's Truth. Violate this and earn a ticket to hell.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 4:48 PM on 03.05.10
->> Jody:

How well you know me. :)

Mostly video, but also the occasional still shooter who, as has been discussed here, feels the need to jump in front of the rest of us -- you know, the ones who put some thought into where they needed to be at the critical moment, and maybe didn't shoot some other things so they could be in position to get the most important shot without blocking everyone else.

Grrrrrr.....
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Gerard Burkhart, Photographer
Valley Glen | CA | USA | Posted: 1:10 PM on 03.06.10
->> Common sense is a funny thing. I believe in it, but I'm teaching sports to 19 year olds who have never had experience with either.

A list of acceptable practices can go a long way in avoiding trouble, with both student photographers and college coaches who may make arbitrary decisions out side of those practices.
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Jason Heffran, Photographer
Natrona Heights | PA | USA | Posted: 1:34 PM on 03.06.10
->> @Dave... That is soooo true.

And, I avoided any potential problem by doing one simple thing. I asked if I was unsure.
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 3:21 AM on 03.07.10
->> I especially love it when the 6'3" shooter (still or video) purposely stands in front of me on the sidelines when there is open space on either side of me (I'm 5'8"). This happened at one Chargers game I was at - no matter where I went on one side, this guy got right in front of me. I moved several times to get out of his way, but here he came. A couple times he backed into me after turning around to see that I was standing there. I was so mad I almost hit him with my monopod! I finally moved to the other side of the field.

One thing you should add Gerard - is for them to be considerate of everyone around them. If everyone treats each other with respect, there is room for all...
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Gerard Burkhart, Photographer
Valley Glen | CA | USA | Posted: 1:58 PM on 03.13.10
->> I've written the "go early and ask" thing into it already and the respect issue gets addressed as part of general behavior section because the students are representing the school paper in a public forum. Also teaching the NPPA ethics in the first day of class and testing them on the second day.

Boot camp indoctrination, it thins the herd quickly.
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 03.13.10
->> Honestly, this is not a bad topic. There are professionals on here at shooting just about every sport. I can tell you this, just because you are a great football shooter does not mean you can show up at Augusta and shoot the Masters well. There are rules, or accepted practices, in every sport. There are also minor "tips" which make it easier to shoot.
For horse racing and for golf, I usually provide my photographers with a tip sheet to help familiarize them with the sport. It helps. I have had some extremely talented photographer who just didn't have a clue about the rules for racing.
I have never shot motorcross or hockey or NASCAR. I wouldn't presume to know what the rules are or how no to get myself killed. Do they basic of covering these sports exist somewhere? I will contribute my knowledge for golf. Maybe someone like Darren Carroll would be better for golf. I know there are variables that are easily addressed with the "just ask" rule to determine local customs, but many of the rules are standard.
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Richard Orr, Photographer
Longmeadow | MA | USA | Posted: 4:35 PM on 03.13.10
->> When I was learning the ropes, I went by the adage, "Keep your mouth shut and your eyes open."

In most venues the process is pretty clear. But you can always ask someone who looks like they know what they are doing.
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