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With the state of the business TODAY, this is a MUST SEE
Jim Prisching, Photographer
Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 9:57 AM on 02.25.10
->> Just watch the video, nothing else needs to be said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE
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Jason Heffran, Photographer
Natrona Heights | PA | USA | Posted: 11:00 AM on 02.25.10
->> This is a great piece.

One thing struck me as being a little odd to me, and some of the comments on YouTube echoed this.

Isn't he allowing his video on YouTube for free? Or, is this unauthorized? If he's not being paid for this documentary clip (or countless others on YouTube), then isn't he technically doing what he is preaching against?

Just a point that came to mind.

I agree that he is pretty dead-on, though. I told someone that you need to change your attitude from an ego-boosting "see my name in the paper" one to a "put food on the table" one. That, is what I think separates a pro from am amateur on the most basic level.
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 11:23 AM on 02.25.10
->> Great clip - it really inspired me somehow. Here are my favorites quotes from the piece (items in parentheses are my addition).

"Everybody else may be an asshole but I'm not." in response to being told that everybody else is doing it for nothing.

"There's no publicity value. The only value for me is if you put money in my hand."

"They always want the writer (photographer) to work for nothing and the problem is there are so many G-D writers (photographers) who have no idea they are supposed to be paid every time they do something."

"I don't take a piss without getting paid."

Love it.

Cheers
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David Stluka, Photographer
Oregon | WI | USA | Posted: 11:24 AM on 02.25.10
->> I like Harlan... well said. Thanks for posting, Jim. I should send this to everyone asking for free photos.
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David Stluka, Photographer
Oregon | WI | USA | Posted: 11:28 AM on 02.25.10
->> I like the last quote you posted the best, Jody. I think I may use that someday.
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 02.25.10
->> I like this clip. A bit different than Malcolm Gladwell's response to Chris Anderson's 'Free: The Future of a Radical Price.' The only thing that would have made it better if you would told videographer to get off his lawn after the interview.
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Jason Orth, Photographer
Lincoln | NE | USA | Posted: 12:50 PM on 02.25.10
->> Jason,

To the point of using the video for free...at least one guy paid him. Kind of a cute story

http://tinyurl.com/ykmqayl

(Link from The Online Photographer)
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Indiana | IN | USA | Posted: 3:44 PM on 02.25.10
->> I LOVE IT!
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Robert Scheer, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 4:56 PM on 02.25.10
->> Big ups! Love this guy!
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Brett Groehler, Photographer
Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 5:15 PM on 02.25.10
->> This has circulated before, it is excellent. Please those of you that work the weekend as a photographer and are giving your work away watch this so the rest of us can continue to earn a living at photography full-time.
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Jim Comeau, Photo Editor, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 5:21 PM on 02.25.10
->> I'm not sure how well known this guy's story is, but he sued and settled with James Cameron (yes, *that* James Cameron) because he believed that the ideas behind Terminator were based on two of his episodes of "The Outer Limits". They ended up settling out of court.

This guy fought for what he thought was rightfully his.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 7:18 PM on 02.25.10
->> This has been going around for a couple of years. There should be a law that requires every freelancer to see it and agree with it in writing before they do their first job.

--Mark
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Keith Simonian, Photographer
Martinez | CA | USA | Posted: 10:27 PM on 02.25.10
->> You know what they say, "a photo credit and three bucks will get you a cup of coffee".
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 11:34 PM on 02.25.10
->> I'm with Jodi

"I don't take a piss without getting paid". That is the attitude you need. Feel free to use Harlan's monologue next time some asshole tries the free schtick on you. You won't get any money, but you'll feel a whole lot better. Think I'll use this in my other business as a motivation presentation.


I think I've got a new hero...
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Sid Hastings, Photo Editor, Photographer
St. Louis | MO | United States | Posted: 11:49 AM on 02.27.10
->> Here's another one worth seeing, pretty accurate reflection of the freelance experience:

http://www.vendorclient.com/

We've all been there. Scofield Editorial in Indianapolis produced it.
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