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Post Processing.
Paul Roberts, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Cheltenham | UK | England | Posted: 4:17 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> In an attempt to resurrect a previous topic, I'm interested to know what peoples post processing routine is? Mine, and this is pretty much the order it goes in........
Crop>
Caption>
Levels>
Slight Curve for Contrast>
Noise Reduction if required>
Save jpg @ 1Mb>
Wire.
Anyone use any other steps? |
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Michael Ip, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 4:23 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> When I'm shooting on hard deadline, I'll usually just use in camera processing - I.E. a custom picture style that ups sharpness and contrast. I'll open the pics in photomechanic, caption and transmit.
When I have more time, I'll sometimes shoot in raw.
I'll open it in Adobe Camera Raw. I'll fix the white balance (if any). Then adjust the exposure, usually bump up the blacks and recover any blown highlights.
I'll then open it in photoshop where I'll adjust with curves. I'll use the shadow/highlight tool to get the picture just right. I'll sharpen slightly and save. I'll do the captioning at the end. |
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 5:03 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> Oh gosh I know that it will seem like overkill to most but here is my processing flow:
1) Shoot RAW
2) Ingest in PhotoMechanic and send image to Adobe Camera Raw
3) Adjust white balance and fine tune exposure then send to Photoshop
4) Start the action that I do 90+% of my work with. It then creates the following adjustment layers each with a mask:
Curves with a preset
Levels for black/white point adjustment
Saturation adjustment preset
Unsharp mask
Selective color
Midtone boost
Burn/dodge layer
Most of the time my preset looks just fine so then I,
5) Flatten the layers and convert to 8bit color
6) crop
7) output for caption back in PhotoMechanic for placing in the FTP cue. |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 5:12 PM on 02.24.10 |
| ->> Paul, mine is just about identical to yours. It takes me forever to properly caption, so I try to get it as right as possible in the camera. |
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:07 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> 1. Shoot RAW
2. Ingest in PhotoMechanic, and make my selects...send them to Adobe Camera Raw.
3. Open the photo multiple times in Camera Raw, making adjustments for shadows, highlights, contrast, and sometimes white balance.
4. Merge the photos together to my liking.
5. Flatten, convert to 8 bit.
6. Caption in PhotoMechanic, transmit to work.
I wouldn't go as far as to call this technique an HDR from one file, because I have to stay within our newspaper's ethics policy. I have just found that I like the results more than when I was working in curves and levels. Yes, it takes a little longer, but because I'm on the features desk, I'm not bumping against deadlines. |
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Rick Osentoski, Photographer
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Martin | OH | United States | Posted: 6:08 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> Ok, shoot everything Raw or Raw + JPG if on very tight deadline.
1. Ingest into Lightroom on a Mac apply pre-caption, all other ITPC data and any pre selected processing I may want to use at that time.
2. Pick selects.
3. Make adjustments and narrow down selections.
4. Caption final selections with code replacement with Typinator
5. Export as JPG files upload with fetch.
Ingest and select at halves or periods for hockey. |
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John Lariviere, Photographer
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Tigard | OR | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 02.24.10 |
| ->> If you want to watch over the shoulder of Chase Jarvis to see what his post production workflow is...he is presenting a live broadcast 10am Pacific time tomorrow (02/25/10) showing his team producing images from a shoot from editing to final production. Check out his blog for details. Should be interesting and informative to many. |
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Rob Shook, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 9:43 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> This is my process in Adobe Camera Raw. I do very little in photoshop.
White balance
Exposure
Recovery
Blacks
Fill light
Brightness
Contrast
Clarity
Vibrance
Sharpening
Noise Reduction |
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Tim Snow, Photographer
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Montreal | Qc | Canada | Posted: 9:51 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> - Shoot RAW
- Ingest into PM with pre-set caption
- Send picks to Lightroom
- Adjust Exposure, Recovery and Blacks if needed
- Crop if needed
- Export with custom name as 12" long, 200dpi JPG
- Transmit
- Make a cup of tea. |
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Alan Herzberg, Photographer
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Elm Grove | WI | USA | Posted: 10:12 PM on 02.24.10 |
->> 1. Shoot RAW
2. Transfer from CF card to hard drive
3. Pour a Margarita or Manhattan
4. Import to LR
5. Select Picks
6. Adjust white balance then exposure, blacks, brightness, etc
7. Export as TIFF files to new folder
8. Batch process TIFFs in PS (unsharp mask, noise ninja)
9. Import TIFFs in LR
10. Crop
11. Export cropped TIFFs to new folder
12. Pour another Margarita or Manhattan
13. Upload to my website |
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Cliff DesPeaux, Photographer
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Shoreline | WA | USA | Posted: 1:30 AM on 02.25.10 |
->> 1. Shoot in JPG
2. Ingest into "dated folder/shoot_name" (example: 022410/basketball) with PhotoMechanic (with batch metadata)
3. Make my selects using Color Class (still in PhotoMechanic)
4. Open selects in Photoshop and make edits (typically, it's just levels and/or cropping; sometimes, depending on the lighting situation, I go a little more in-depth)
5. Save files in the same directory, adding "_edit" to the filename
6. Transmit selects to my company's server via PhotoMechanic
7. Transmit selects to PhotoShelter via PhotoMechanic (private galleries; just for archiving and easy online access)
8. Party time.
9. Every few days, I transfer the folders off my laptop into my archiving system at home |
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Colin Heyburn, Photographer
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ARMAGH | NI | United Kingdom | Posted: 4:13 PM on 03.06.10 |
->> Shoot
load on to laptop
import into lightroom
select
caption
edit ie crop
transmit |
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 4:50 PM on 03.06.10 |
->> 1. Shoot in JPG. Forget that I left white balance on something random and wish I shot RAW once I realized my mistake.
2. Lose card on desk. Spend about 10 minutes looking for it. Find it in pants.
3. Ingest in PhotoMechanic.
4. Search the office for coffee.
5. Look over images. Wish I was a better photographer.
6. Pick selects by covering eyes and randomly dotting computer screen with a grease pen.
7. Search the office for screen cleaner.
8. Go to the picture desk and get yelled at for five minutes.
9. Cry in bathroom for about 20 minutes.
10. Polish turds in Photoshop.
11. Spend another five minutes looking for my reporter's notebook. Also find it in pants.
12. Write captions in TextEdit and copy into PhotoMechanic.
13. Say one Our Father and three Hail Mary's.
14. Put into Merlin.
15. Hope for the best. |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 5:01 PM on 03.06.10 |
->> If you're in an ink-on-paper workflow, no sharpening until the final final FINAL file is sized and ready for publication. The prepress department will determine the best settings to use for their particular press operation. Most of the time, this means that the photographer does not do sharpening at all.
Sharpening on paper works in the way that the pixels interact with the halftone dots. If you sharpen before final sizing, you screw-up that relationship and the sharpening won't work properly.
If you're in a Web workflow, you can eyeball sharpening, but again, only at the final size.
If you're in a video workflow, no sharpening at all.
--Mark |
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Rob Shook, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 9:44 PM on 03.10.10 |
->> I got this email from a SS member, and since I have an entirely-raw workflow that works for me I figured I'd share my response.
"Rob, I'm responding to your editing. I picked up a book from Scott Kelby which says editing in Camera Raw is basically the same as Lightroom. I've been trying this, but I injest into PhotoMechanic and can you send several images for editing into Camera Raw, or one at a time?"
I have not read Scott Kelby's book, but I would agree with him on that point. I haven't purchased an activation code for photo-mechanic, so I stopped using it when my trial ran out, but from memory I think it is similar to Bridge (which is what I use).
If you highlight a bunch of raw photos and open them at the same time in camera raw, you get a screen like this (http://i.imgur.com/t5vq3.jpg) which really is pretty similar to lightroom. Basically, you get all the ease of having all your photos on the side, plus more editing functionality.
Also, you can highlight them all and apply changes to the entire batch, save the whole group as jpeg/tiff/whatever, or open them all in photoshop for additional editing.
This is what I picked up from several demos I sat through from a photoshop professional, so realize that these techniques are biased towards adobe software. |
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Chris Condon, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Ponte Vedra Bch | FL | USA | Posted: 8:52 AM on 03.11.10 |
->> Mine is:
1. Shoot jpg
2. ingest card w/Photo mechanic to event folder, applying batch caption and rename files.
3. Make initial selects for upload and color tag red.
4. Copy selects to "Transmit" folder.
5. Crop/adjust in Photoshop. Save files
6. Final caption and FTP to Getty via Photo Mechanic.
I find this to be very fast and efficient. I can get a bunch of files posted pretty quickly.
I also have my original unretouched files saved separately in case someone needs one.
In my case, every tournament has a 3-letter code which is the
basis for all the renaming.
Folders would be: 10_ATT_thu_CC (AT&T Pebble Beach)
Files are: 10-ATT_{sequence}_CC
I'll do second edits when I get back to the office, but I mainly transmit most of the "keepers" on site. |
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
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Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 7:58 AM on 03.18.10 |
->> 1. Make a Custom White Balance with my Westcott Digital Target Calibrator
2. Make a pre-set in Adobe Lightroom (I will use a previous pre-set too)
• Noise Reduction
• Exposure
• Fill Light
• Recovery
• Initial Crop
3. I shoot everything in RAW
4. Ingest in Photo Mechanic
5. Select keepers in separate folder
6. Import keepers folder into Lightroom with selected preset.
7. Make small corrections and crop
8. Save each image in separate folder as a jpeg
9. Transmit or put folder on jump drive and give to SID or client
10. Get some popcorn…
Adobe Lightroom has organized and increased my work flow tremendously. As a graphic artist I only use Photoshop for web and poster designs these days. Lightroom is my choice for product of the DECADE.... |
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 11:41 AM on 03.18.10 |
->> Hmm...
1. I ingest in Aperture, with a preset base caption and name.
2. Edit my selects and filter out the rest
3. Try to see if there is batch levels/recovery/black/white/exposure/noise that will work for all and apply it. If not, just one by one.
4. Crop
5. Modify the more precise caption
6. Expost via Uberupload creating the Tx folder just before Tx and select the compression level.
7. FTP away
My only problem is that Aperture 2.1(?) can be cumbersome with the thumbnails and slow the whole works. Would it be easier to ingest into PM and then cart them over to Aperture to doall of the other stuff? I guess I should try that. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:03 PM on 03.18.10 |
| ->> workflow? what is this which you speak of? |
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 1:41 PM on 03.18.10 |
->> Chuck,
A preposition should never be what you end a sentence on....... |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 3:58 PM on 03.18.10 |
->> White balance cameras w/ Expo Disk
Shoot RAW
Dump to harddrive
Open Capture One
Make picks
Convert to 16-bit TIFs
open PS,
crop, adjust curves
Neat Image noise reduction if needed
run action converting to JPG, saving in directory.
Write captions in Bridge...
upload.
Am I the only guy shooting RAW that uses Capture One? Why is this? |
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Dave Breen, Photographer
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Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 4:11 PM on 03.18.10 |
->> Chuck -- You can neutralize the sentence-ending preposition by using the redundant construction, "...of which you speak of".
David -- I always learned "...end a sentence with". |
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