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Looking for a new camera..
Robby Gallagher, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Brookings | SD | USA | Posted: 1:10 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> I currently shoot a Canon EOS 50D and I am not really happy with it. I shoot a ton of sports, as I see it kinda as my niche. However, like I said I have a camera I am not really happy with.
What suggestions do you have? I do not have much money since I am a student, but I really want to advance my career and better myself as a photographer as well.
Thanks! |
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Ric Tapia, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:16 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> What about the 1D mk II?
You can an get one of those for around $1000 used. |
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Robby Gallagher, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Brookings | SD | USA | Posted: 1:18 AM on 02.08.10 |
| ->> Well i am looking for an upgrade. I noticed the only difference in that and my 50D is the fps... but i seriously considered it. |
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Michael Ip, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:25 AM on 02.08.10 |
| ->> For under 2K I'd say your best bet is 7D or 1d mkIII. |
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Chris Parent, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Baton Rouge | LA | United States | Posted: 1:34 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> I've gone through a 20D, 30D, 40D, D200, D2X and will finally be getting a D3 in the next couple days. I found the xxD series okay for sports, but lacking. The D200 and D2x had their own problems. The only was I really found what I needed was to step up to a pro body.
You say you do a lot of sports. That is almost exclusively what I do. I kept going through the xxD series hoping to find a camera that satisfied what I wanted. I never could find it. I tried a Mark II and Mark IIN. The Mark IIN was the closest to what I wanted. The only disadvantage to that was the ISO performance. Mark IIIs have autofocus problems, so I didn't even try to find one that satisfied me.
I haven't tried the 7D. I hear it is good though. Haven't gotten a chance to test it out. I think your best bet is to try that or see if you like the Mark IIIs. The 50D isn't a bad camera by any means, that shouldn't hold you back too much. I'd work on learning what you can away from equipment. Then when you have saved money step up to a 7D or Mark III or even Mark IV. For what you want, the only real option is a 7D and that isn't that big of an upgrade. So find what you want, save up and then go get it. It makes that day of getting it more satisfying. |
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Brian Dowling, Photographer
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Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 1:49 AM on 02.08.10 |
| ->> Is getting a 300 2.8 an option? I don't know if buying a 7D or a 1D2N will make much of a difference, but better glass and a longer reach will make a world of difference. |
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 1:53 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> "I noticed the only difference in that and my 50D is the fps..."
I'm pretty sure the MK II has a much better auto focus system, a superior build and other features beyond the 50D. I have never used a 50D but I have used 3 different versions of the 40D and was unhappy with all of them. My MK II is FAR superior to my 40D hands down.
If you can't afford to move up to a new body I think the 1 series would be the way to go.
EMI |
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Jeff Hinds, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 2:57 AM on 02.08.10 |
| ->> How about renting one or graciously asking a fellow photog to borrow a body for a night? That hands on approach could help your decision...especially getting a chance to use the far superior auto focusing of the mark2, etc, sries... |
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Brian Blanco, Photographer
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Tampa / Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 3:41 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> Robby,
First ask yourself, "What problem do I have with my images and how can I fix it?" Often times a change of physical perspective, swithcing up your technique or adopting a new approach to covering the story will allow you to get around perceived shortcomings in your gear.
Can't get shallow enough depth of field? Maybe try shooting from the end zone or paying more attention to your backgrounds.
No long glass? Maybe find a story-telling image on the sideline or locker room at the half.
Need higher frames-per-second? Work on your timing and shoot single shot.
It may be that you could stand to benefit from different gear, but without knowing what technical problems you're having it's hard to steer you in the right direction. Truthfully, we ALL did it when we were first starting out. We all fell into the trap of believing that we needed better camera equipment to take better photos.
That's not to say that gear is not important; there's a reason we spend so much on camera equipment, but you apparently have a 70-200mm f/2.8, a "wide" lens and a newer camera body that's actually still in current production. (I'd likely sell that 18-270mm f/3.5-5.6 and buy a used aftermarket wide zoom with a constant max f-stop or, better yet a 14mm or 20mm f/2.8 with the money you get)
I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that I can hand your equipment to a shooter like Edmund Fountain and with just that gear alone he'll come back with an amazing, story-telling image every time. Remember, it's more about people and less about trinkets.
It's great that your asking questions but since you're a student on an understandably tight budget I'd look at learning to work with what you have until you can address a specific issue that we can point you in the direction of a fix for.... you've actually got good gear for a college student. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 8:17 AM on 02.08.10 |
->> The Mark IIn isn't state of the art but it should be an improvement in every way other than highest ISO quality compared to a 50D. If you can live with ISO 1600 the Mk IIn can get the job done. It offers much better AF response, a larger sensor (1.3x crop v 1.6x crop) which also translates as a bigger VF, bigger buffer and flagship line amenities such as increased ruggedness and weather sealing.
With the release of the MK IV, there should be some used cameras becoming available. |
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Robby Gallagher, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Brookings | SD | USA | Posted: 12:30 PM on 02.08.10 |
| ->> Honestly, I would love to borrow a fellow photographers camera haha. But around here. I have the best camera in town... Sadly enough. But thank you all for the insight. When i get some cash, hopefully I will have a better perspective on a camera I have in mind. Thanks again. |
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Peter Wine, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Dayton | OH | USA | Posted: 2:06 PM on 02.08.10 |
->> I'm not shooting as much sports as I used to (or as I like most of the time,) but when I did I had a 30D and a 1D (classic, mark I and all that).
The 1D would be on the long glass because it would focus faster, focus better and generally work better than the 30D.
The 30D with short glass would still have trouble keeping up with even high school basketball in terms of focus. (Faster frame rate doesn't matter much when you're using strobes.)
If you want to stay with Canon because of your lens investment, try the 7D or a used 1D mark II or IIN.
The ISO is better on the 7D (and I don't have one, so can't speak with firsthand info,) but the pro body is a tried and tested winner for photogs around the country.
That said, if money wasn't a factor, I'd be looking at the D3... |
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Steven Limentani, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | United States | Posted: 12:34 AM on 02.09.10 |
| ->> I own a 7D as well as a Mark III and IV, the 7D is a great value that performs very well in low light. Head and shoulders above a 50D (which I also own) in every way. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 4:38 AM on 02.09.10 |
->> Just used a 7D from CPS and loved the speed. I am reconsidering a Mk IV since its such a good value. You should really join a Pro like CPS or NPS, depending on which way you want to go equipment wise and get a loaner.
Or, just bit the bullet and get the 7D. |
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