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Zoriah reponds to critics
Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Photo Editor
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 10:35 PM on 02.07.10
->> http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00e55188bf7a88340120a871b378970...

R.E. his "disaster photojournalism clinic" critics
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 10:36 PM on 02.07.10
->> Error message on the link.
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Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Photo Editor
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 10:36 PM on 02.07.10
->> Woops- wrong link above.

THIS is the link to his post:
http://www.zoriah.net/blog/2010/02/disaster-photojournalism-workshops-the-c...
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Chris Large, Photographer
Okotoks | AB | Canada | Posted: 11:25 PM on 02.07.10
->> There is no end to this guy's ego
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Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Photo Editor
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 11:38 PM on 02.07.10
->> His response on the Lightstalkers forum is even better.

http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/zoriah-in-haiti

I didn't realize corporate media were so evil, but then again, I'm new at this...
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David Manning, Photographer
Athens | GA | | Posted: 3:34 AM on 02.08.10
->> I prefer the work of Joao Silva & Emilio Morenatti to Zoriah's when it comes to conflict photography.
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Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Photo Editor
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 02.10.10
->> Hah- just saw a Facebook friend joined this group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=295183934647&ref=nf
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Doug Strickland, Student/Intern, Photographer
Danville | KY | USA | Posted: 2:09 PM on 02.10.10
->> I posted my take about this last night on my blog, my big problem is that too many PJ's are attacking Zoriah on irrelevant matters like his toning or how he's a "bad photographer" which just discredits all of our arguments and makes us look like children:

http://dougstricklandphoto.com/blog/?p=51
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 2:19 PM on 02.10.10
->> doug, a well thought out blog. I responded on his blog a short time ago (before I read yours). I tried to be polite to him, but, I in fact do have a problem with someone like him who professes to be a photojournalist but apparently hasn't any idea what our ethics are on over processing and toning of images. I would dare say 90% of his photos on his website would fail any news publications imaging ethical standards. And let us be honest here. Most of the time all we have are our reputations for showing the truth of what we see. Many of his photos aren't truthful renderings, they are what he "wanted" to see and he "fixed" them in photoshop. And we all know where that slippery slope goes, if you can't trust his images with the visual aspects can you truly trust other ethical considerations? I think this is an important thing to think about.
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Doug Strickland, Student/Intern, Photographer
Danville | KY | USA | Posted: 5:06 PM on 02.10.10
->> I agree Chuck, unfortunately for people who are not PJ's I believe this is difficult to understand. The majority of people have become mistrustful of images because of the digital age and the ease of manipulation, and so they do not realize that it is an important ethical standard in photojournalism NOT to manipulate your photos. They don't hold it in the same regard we do, and so they don't consider it to be a big deal (though they certainly should, if they want to believe what they are being shown).

Most of the non-PJ's I saw responding to all the PJ posts seem to take the criticism of his toning and alterations to be mere jealousy, and without well thought out responses like yours that explain why this is so important, it may very well seem that way to them.
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Chris La Putt, Photographer
Jersey City | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:56 PM on 02.10.10
->> he deleted the post - here's a cached copy of it:
http://tinyurl.com/y8regk3

he started this one

http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/zoriahs-haiti-workshop-ideas-and-directi...
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