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Microphone choice for Canon 7D
Jane Tyska, Photographer
Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 1:53 PM on 02.05.10
->> Just picked up the 7D recently and am using the Sennheiser MKE400 on camera microphone. After shooting a couple videos, I'm not at all happy with the sound, especially for $200. It picks up a lot of backround noise, even on the minus setting.

http://bit.ly/cRHd9X

Has anyone used the Rode and what are your opinions of either of these mics? Thanks!

http://bit.ly/b6dvvd
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Keaau | HI | USA | Posted: 3:08 PM on 02.05.10
->> I've been using the regular mono Rode VideoMic and it has been great. I was using it with a little Sanyo HD videocamera but I just got a Canon 7D this past week and used it with that.

I considered the Stereo instead of mono but it was more expensive and larger. Also I believe the mono version is more directional to the front then the stereo version, something I wanted so I could get the best audio from the subject.

I can use a shielded extension cable and hold the mic off the camera while doing interviews and have also set it on the ground or on a little gorilla pod when I needed to have it away from the camera (near a speaker).

Make sure you get the dead kitten with with it as you'll need it in windy environments. Also buy a battery tester. It inspires more confidence when you know you've got a good battery before the shoot.

Some video shot with the 7D and VideoMic:
http://tinyurl.com/yjzxo74
Without the dead kitten on the mic the wind noise would have been terrible. The opening was cropped in on the video so it's a bit lossy. My first attempt at using the 7D to shoot video in very gusty winds, flying spray and sand.
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 3:41 PM on 02.05.10
->> I went with the Zoom H4N for the 7D and just record sound externally, unless I'm shooting b-roll when I only need it from the camera's internal mic. Using Sony Vegas or Final Cut, it's super easy to match up the waveforms in post and, as long as the two audio tracks were recorded at the same sample rate, they stay in sync for the clip's duration. The auto gain control that they put on the 7D makes it very, very difficult to record audio in-camera, so I don't bother anymore.

The H4N also has a ton other uses that I've found in the past few weeks, including a nice wireless setup and the ability to tap into a soundboard. Well worth the $300.
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PF Bentley, Photographer
Planet Earth | HI | USA | Posted: 8:55 PM on 02.06.10
->> I use the Sennheiser ME64 with Beachtek to disable the Auto Audio Gain in the camera. Get the little Sennheiser mount and a Zacuto viewfinder and you're good to go. This set up records the video with the audio internally.
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Jane Tyska, Photographer
Oakland | CA | USA | Posted: 7:07 PM on 02.08.10
->> Thanks so much for your advice everyone! Ethan, the singer in my band just got the H4N and it's amazing! We recorded our rehearsal with it last night. Just seems like a hassle to me to have another device...

PF, that sounds like a good plan...how are you? I remember running into you quite often during primary time in NH when I used to live in Portsmouth. Miss all that fun up there!

I may end up selling the MKE400 and going with either the Rode or the Sennheiser 64.
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 8:50 PM on 02.08.10
->> To each his or her own! I couldn't do without my H4N and am glad you found similar results. It really is an solid piece of kit.
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 8:54 PM on 02.08.10
->> The Sennheiser blows. I used it in Peru last week and it ruined several situations of mine. You didn't know when the battery died, it was tinny, fragile, and I lost my sock repeatedly. I so wish I had the H4N, but it got accidentally checked out, so I had to go with the Sennheiser.
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Steve Puppe, Photographer
Olathe | KS | USA | Posted: 1:18 PM on 03.02.10
->> Any more opinions as to whether the shotgun rode or stereo rode is a better way to go?
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Rob Shook, Student/Intern, Photographer
Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 12:20 AM on 03.03.10
->> I have not used either mic.

However, you are looking at two completely different types of mics, and it isn't completely clear what your application is.

The first mic is a shotgun mic, and is very directional. If there is anything happening behind the subject you are pointing it at, this noise will end up on the recording.

The second mic is a supercardioid. This has a much wider front pickup than a shotgun mic, but less than an omnidirectional mic.

Also, the zoom isn't a substitute for a microphone. My recommendation is buy a mic with a recording pattern that matches what you need, and attach it to a recorder that offers control over the sensitivity - this is what allows you to get rid of the background noise. The zoom mentioned is good, while I prefer the Olympus LS-10. There are many other good ones as well.
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:32 AM on 03.03.10
->> I have the Rode StereoMic and VideoMic, and like Rob said, they are used for different kinds of pickups.
I also have a Sennheiser G3 wireless lav set. I have that hooked up to a Tascam DR-100 in my camera bag. Then I use the StereoMic to pick up some ambient sound that I sync in post with PluralEyes
http://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html

Its nice to have both kinds of sound to choose from in post.
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