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Burning DVD Help -
Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
Lincoln Park | MI | USA | Posted: 5:56 PM on 02.03.10
->> Here is my dilemma ---

First let me state that I am running Mac OSX 10.5 (Leopard).

When burning DVD's of images for clients, some are coming back telling me that they cannot read the DVD that I am giving them. So I burn another one, same problem. I usually end up putting all Images on several CD's - everything is fine.

I go to the store today to buy more DVD's - and low and behold I see DVD-R and DVD+R. To be honest, I never knew that there was a difference.

My question to you all is: What format, DVD-R or DVD+R are you giving your clients if you are burning DVD's? Also, what format should I be giving them to ensure that I do not have problems in the future?
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David Ahntholz, Photographer, Photo Editor
Cleveland | OH | USA | Posted: 6:18 PM on 02.03.10
->> DVD-R = Mac and DVD+R = PC

Most newer Macs have burners that can read and write both. I assume the same for newer PCs.
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 6:19 PM on 02.03.10
->> I have a few Mac applications that burn DVD's but they have caused me problems.
But if I just use Finder on the Mac, it seems to work OK. I've just been burning +R lately since that's what I have at the moment. I've had problem with the -R before, but just on a PC. My Mac seems to handle them OK.
For Gymnastics, the crew I work with uses Toast and it seems to work well.
People are going to ask:
What are they having trouble reading the DVD's with? A PC or a Mac?
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Bryan Hulse, Photographer
Nashville | Tn | USA | Posted: 6:19 PM on 02.03.10
->> BTW: I don't think that's true about -R = Mac and +R = PC. I've been using -R on a PC for years.
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Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
Lincoln Park | MI | USA | Posted: 6:51 PM on 02.03.10
->> Thanks for the comments. I have burned both -R and +R on my Mac, using both Photomechanic and the basic MacDrive.

Bryan - everyone who has problems is on a PC.
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 8:07 PM on 02.03.10
->> On my Mac Pro I use DVD +R and Toast 8 Titanium software to burn CD's and DVD's. In Toast 8, there are check boxes to enable the DVD to be read in Mac or PC only or both.
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John Lariviere, Photographer
Tigard | OR | USA | Posted: 9:24 PM on 02.03.10
->> You also might want to test a couple of different DVD brands. I had a Sony burner that had a problem with Sony brand DVD-R (go figure). I switched to TDK...perfect...never a problem thereafter. I have heard similar stories from a few colleagues. Most the time, it likely doesn't matter...but there are those rare instances.

Good luck!!
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 11:14 PM on 02.03.10
->> I use Taiyo Yuden disks from Rima.com as well as the Archival Gold media by Delkin. Both are highly regarded. We do have problems with one of our Macs, but it's hit or miss. I think it needs to be sent into a technician.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 11:22 PM on 02.03.10
->> PC vs Mac = Not true.

The most compatible variety is DVD-R. The quick explanation is if you don't know why you need +R disks, use -R.

The long explanation:
http://www.askdavetaylor.com/whats_the_difference_between_dvdr_dvdr_dvdrw_d...

--Mark
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Thomas Boyd, Photographer
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 3:13 AM on 02.04.10
->> This is a really cool and inexpensive disc burning app. It automatically spans disks and works really well.

http://www.discoapp.com/
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Andrew Knapik, Photographer, Assistant
Lincoln Park | MI | USA | Posted: 6:20 AM on 02.04.10
->> Thanks for all te help.

Mark - that link is very helpful.

Andrew
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David Ahntholz, Photographer, Photo Editor
Cleveland | OH | USA | Posted: 5:42 PM on 02.05.10
->> I use -R (I'm on a Mac), and have had very few problems with clients having problems with the DVDs. To clarify ... yes, it depends what kind of DVD drive the computer has. The few times there has been a problem, it needs to be sent as +R, not because of a media/brand issue but because it was a PC and couldn't read the -R disk. As I noted, most newer drives (and computers) will read and write both +/-R.

Apple added support in Panther (10.3) for +R in late 2003. Until then, the OS and drives would only support -R.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1041-5090559.html

Dell and HP were early supporters of +R, and in 2002 Microsoft announced they were also supporting DVD+R.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-879980.html

"Microsoft's support of a format could precipitate a quicker adoption of a standard," said Mary Craig, an analyst at research firm Gartner. It "would almost ensure the success of the DVD+RW format potentially being the standard for PCs."

In 2003 Microsoft said they would also support both formats. There were some PC makers who supported -R, but generally I'd say older PCs primarily supported DVD+R because of the support from HP, Dell, (and eventually Compaq, which switched from DVD-R to DVD+R when they were bought by HP). Older Mac hardware (pre-2004) will be -R only unless the drive has been replaced.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 9:07 PM on 02.05.10
->> David,

It's not really a PC v Mac issue. It's about what one's own equipment is capable of handling and (most importantly) what your customer's needs are.

--Mark
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