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Ipad PT 2
David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> The only use I can have for it is to store my portfolio so I can show tons of Images without having to bring a ton of Clips along with me, 100 sheets of paper and magazine Cover are heavy!! But that's it, I don't see me using it for much more than that. |
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Andrew Villa, Student/Intern, Assistant
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San Jose | CA | United States | Posted: 5:34 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> @Jim Colburn: 829 for the good one? I don't feel that way at all. 599 for the 32gb model should do just well for it's target audience. Someone like me that owns an iPhone already and doesn't need 3G connectivity everywhere with my tablet will be perfectly happy. It will work great for e-book reading, hanging at the coffee shop and playing scrabble(yes I play scrabble), watching a movie on the airplane and general things. I don't think people need 3G everywhere they go, nor do they want to pay 30 bucks a month to have it. |
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Todd Spoth, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 5:39 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> andrew brings up a good point. im sure that the major board game manufacturers will get on board and produce ipad versions of popular board games to play on the device. now that sounds fun.
bye bye "travel" versions of your fav boardgames! |
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
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Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 5:40 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> I have a B&N Nook on order and was giving serious thought to canceling it and getting this but, as a book reader, it seems lacking thanks to having a backlit LCD rather than an e-ink display. Though I think it would be great for web surfing and other things and I am hopeful from a content-producer perspective. It's interesting and there will no doubt be some great apps for it but I'm not exactly blown away right now. |
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Dominick Reuter, Photographer, Assistant
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Boston | MA | USA | Posted: 5:42 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> I think this thing has potential.
My workflow has mostly moved to a desktop for more speed and power, so I don't fully use my laptop as a computer. When my laptop dies, I'll be in the market for something with more functionality than a smartphone for when I'm away from the desk.
Apple is advertising an attachment that allows for either a USB connection or a SD card reader to download photos. That plus tethering it to my smartphone and I can see editing and sending a few photos from location. The 64gig size limitation is a little bit of a turnoff, but it's a start. It sure would beat carrying around a laptop.
If the wizards whip up a robust aperture/lightroom type app, I think the device could be a great tool in the field.
Obviously there are some major things I'd like to see, but as others are saying around the interwebs, they gotta save something for 2.0.
- DR
http://reuterphoto.com |
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Steven Georges, Photographer
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Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 5:43 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> @David Welker
"does anyone look at this and see a better future for our profession?"
First - With the "camera connection kit" and some some simple photo/caption editing software, (you know there will be a ton of them) I can carry this with me to edit and transmit simple stuff on tight newspaper deadline or "I want it NOW!" web deadlines. I could even post the photos on the web site myself!
Second - This could be the way newspapers finally attract "the younger generation"
The Kindle just delivered newspaper text - without graphics or photos! A news aggregator's dream, but not a way to entice readers to your newspaper site.
This may actually be preferable to reading actual newspaper. Don't knock it till you've see Apple's video. |
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
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Phoenix | AZ | United States | Posted: 5:44 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> It could have potential. Right now it seem to be of more of media playing device, but with the (optional) SD reader and (optional) USB port and (optional) keyboard (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ - accessories at bottom of page) we could have a device we could use for filing from the field instead of lugging a full size laptop. We still need someone to port Lightroom to the iPad (or wait for Apple to develop Aperture Lite for it) along with an ftp client. Each optional accessory adds to the bulk and price of the thing though.
Why can't Apple come out with a small netbook like the Dell Mini 10v? That's what I really want. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Steven,
Thanks for your input.
I don't know if the "dont knock the Ipad" comment was directed towards me or not, but just to let you know I wasnt knocking the Ipad intentionally I came across that way. My question was one without any knowledge base for the Ipad. I wanted to see what everyone thought. |
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Michael Cavazos, Photographer
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Longview | TX | USA | Posted: 6:11 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> Over sized iPod Touch is what it is. What does it do that the iPod/phone wont. |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 6:51 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Delane B. Rouse,
You're right price is subjective, but with prices ranging from 499 to 899 that is pretty darn expensive for a 9 inch ipod.
I think their price point could have been lower, plus again the models on ATT network will suffer from speed issues.
It also makes me wonder about the whole verizon rumor now, I have a bad feeling that apple is going to stick with ATT. |
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
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Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 7:05 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> As a computer its not interesting at all. As an ebook and emag reader quite interesting.
There are already small netbooks on the marked with 3g and 10hour battery life, so I don’t see any reason for choosing a very limited use oversized iPhone instead if it's supposed to replace the netbooks. |
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 7:15 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Matthew--->I didn't see a single written source that thought the price would be LESS than $999...and we all know that apple products are typically more expensive...so when they announced it at $499 I was totally surprised.
It's definitely more than an iPod and I already see some unique ways to use this for the benefit of my business bottom line.
dbr |
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
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Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 7:17 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> It is, what it is.
if it doesnt work for you? no one's twisting your arm to buy it.
if your interest has been piqued, like mines, then go for it...look a little more into it.
just my $0.02 |
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
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Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 7:26 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> This is just the beginning. I guess all the major computer brands will launch their versions of the iPad in 2010 and 2011 with multitasking, full OS, SSD and so on. That would be much more interesting since many people then don't need laptop and netbooks. |
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Bastian Ehl, Photographer
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Magdeburg | _ | Germany | Posted: 7:29 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> It will bring back subscription revenue like in the old print days.
Finally a way to monetize online editorial content. We already see that with apps for the iPhone.
Remember how iTunes changed the way we buy music?
Give the iPad some years.
When I got my first iPod in 2003, everyone laughed at me. 2009, everyone has one. And everyone buys music over iTunes. Why? Because it's even easier than download it illegal on the internet.
It will change the media industry. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 7:36 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Just one reason why Apple products are anticipated with such enthusiasm. Look at the comments generated on this board.
Those who see a use for this product will buy one asap and those who don't will probably buy one in about a year, just to keep up. |
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Michael Ip, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 7:46 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> If Camera Bits makes a photomechanic app for this and if Apple makes a CF card reader for it, I'll definitely buy this. I'll even pay extra for the 3G. |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 7:54 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> I am torn on it. I really like the idea of it, except that it is just a iTouch on steroids. I would have liked something more along the lines of a Macbook Air turned into a iPad, a little more computing power. I have a Macbook and a Macbook Pro, and I am starting to do more and more studio setting stuff, and I would have loved to see a larger hard drive, a firewire connection, and enough juice to run Aperture, that I could tether to my 1D's to that would be less bulky than my Macbook Pro. That being said, if I flew more than I do, I would much rather have the iPad to watch movies on than my iPhone or have to pull my laptop out during the flight, and having a few different portfolios on it, along with email and web browsing, and books, etc, etc, it is an interesting concept.
I think it blows the Kindle away. My sister got the newer Kindle, and it is cool, she loves it, but at $259, the step up to the iPad is worth the $ in my opinion, plus there is a Kindle iPhone app. If you look at the Kindle DX, priced at $489 for only a little more, you get the iPad with the same size screen, but color, email, web, photos, music, movies. So much more than a Kindle can do.
Another drawback for me is the screen. I have a hard enough time putting a screen protector on my iPhone, I can only imagine that it will be a bigger pain putting it on the iPad. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 7:58 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Carl:
There is a company, ZAGG_Inc@mail.vresp.com, that makes military grade protectors for electronic products. I have some on the front and back of my iPhone and they are practically bullet proof |
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Keith Lucas, Photographer
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Verona | VA | USA | Posted: 8:16 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> OK...I confess, I am an apple geek...but I agree with some other comments.... a few more photo industry apps and this thing would be great....photomechanic or Aperture and this would make life ideal for uploading on newspaper deadline...High school game starts at 7:00...paper needs first photos by 8:00, gallery by 9....I would love to be able to shoot and transmit from the school or parking lot independent of the school LAN..
I think like most Apple products, this will evolve into a complimentary device...ipod/iphone for music etc...ipad for video & internet.... just my thinking....
I was shocked at price point....I had predicted 899 for BASE model....so I was surprised....
Personally, I am upgrading desktop first.....but I may reconsider the ipod touch for an ipad...and hang on to the blackberry until APple and Verizon kiss and make up! ATT sucks around here....and that is a COMPLIMENT compared to what most users think about the 3G network here in the valley.... |
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PJ Heller, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 8:18 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> ->>Finally a way to monetize online editorial content. We already see that with apps for the iPhone.
Not according to this.
http://displacedjournalists.com/ |
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Max Waugh, Photographer
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Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 8:21 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Carl, one big difference between this and the Kindle, nook, etc. is that those eReaders use eInk, which is much easier on the eyes than the iPad and other similar backlit screens. I know for me, reading a computer screen for hours on end can be bothersome. I waited for today's announcement to see what they'd come up with, but it still won't keep me from ordering a Kindle as my main reading device.
That said, I could see myself getting a future generation iPad as a mixed media device, especially if they can add a few more of the features others have already mentioned.
btw- for those debating which eReader to get, I've now used both the nook (bought) and Kindle (1st gen, borrowed)... and just returned the nook. Too many bugs with this first iteration, so I'll be going with Kindle. Even the older Kindle is much easier to use. |
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Bastian Ehl, Photographer
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Magdeburg | _ | Germany | Posted: 9:09 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> PJ, this story is not what I meant. The app store already offers in-app-purchase, which can also serve to provide subscription based content.
I don't consider a 99cents app comparable in any way to a paid subcription app from a media outlet, like the new york times. |
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Christian del Rosario, Photographer
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 9:15 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> I think this is a good sign of things to come. I hope Apple would do this exact thing, but with full OS X as an operating system. I would certainly bite for one of those. |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 9:56 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> There is simply no company that can understand the consumer and his or her intent/desires/wishes, but at the same time, develop products that fufill needs that you didn't even know you had better than APPLE.
Just before the first iPhone was introduced, the Wall Street Journal had a story interviewing competitors. Most of them said something to the effect that while they respected Apple, they had years of experience and essentially wished Apple well, but didn't view them as a threat.
As a marketing person, I remember telling my wife "I feel sorry for these people. They have no idea what they are about to run up against." They soon discovered the power of Apple marketing.
I downloaded the stream from the intro tonight. I think these guys are going to make it a two horse race between them and Amazon in a hurry. Amazon will be a player because of the fact they are viewed as a bookseller. The iPad is a elegant product that will do so much more than Kindle.
Apple never competes on price. They give you lots of cool features and things you didn't know you wanted or needed and people opt for cool. I feel sorry for their competition.
Whether PJs buy this product or not is of little concern to Apple. They will go out and create a huge market and then own it.
I'm glad I don't sell Goss printing presses for a living. Those guys are a endangered species.
I do think this will help the newspaper business transition. Welcome to the brave new world. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 10:12 PM on 01.27.10 |
| ->> For $499.00 that seems like a great price point. definitely interested, I love my ITouch and always wished the screen was a little larger. This will be great to have images loaded on it for showing samples to clients, and having a slide show presentation to have loaded to show to a small group. does it have connections to link to a projector etc... |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 11:06 PM on 01.27.10 |
->> Any newspaper executive who was hoping for a savior in the form of the iPad is going to be disappointed. The problems faced by newspapers will not be solved by any platform, hardware or medium. Newspapers can only be saved by the same thing that would have saved them 10, 20 and 30 years ago:
Relevant local content.
--Mark |
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Steven Georges, Photographer
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Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 12:34 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> @David Welker
No, that comment was not aimed at you (your post was very positive) but at anyone that might raise an eyebrow at my suggestion that this could be a very big deal for electronic newspaper publishing.
I'm already working toward getting my newspaper to buy them for our photo staff.
They keep saying they need the photos sooner for the web, this could work. |
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Chris Parent, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Baton Rouge | LA | United States | Posted: 12:47 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> This will take chimping to an all new level. Just imagine all the hobbyist pulling out their iPads to check their shots!!
(This was a joke. Please remember that.)
Anyway, it will be useful if an app can be designed to connect wireless with a D3 or Mark IV that has a wireless transmitter. Just imagine being able to have them wirelessly downloaded and have a bigger screen. Images could be checked and transmitted during timeouts or delays easily. Good for a single photographer without a runner. Especially for that game changing shot. If i remember Reuters was suing a system with UMPCs at one point similar to that. |
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Matthew Bush, Photographer
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Hattiesburg | MS | USA | Posted: 1:05 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> They are going to have to make an Otterbox for this thing in a hurry..... I can see my 3 year old nephew "Fixing " one in a hurry... That said I want one but I was already in the market for a new Ipod Touch since the last one went out Mission Impossible style..... no really think up in smoke. (Moisture from my cup holder transfered to the car charger and it burned up the charging circuit)
This is more practically for me since I already own a Droid. If it runs the Kindle app I am sold I do not need another pocket gadget but this is attractive for something to watch TV episodes on or surf sportsshooter or read books on. |
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Francis Specker, Photographer
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Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 2:29 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> I don't know why photographers are bashing the iPad. Do you really need OSX for image editing? A great app will do everything you need within itself. What you don't get in the iPad is a lot of stuff you don't need when editing photos; DVD drive, ethernet, video cam.
It has a card reader, wifi, 3g, a beautiful screen, a virtual and a real keyboard. It doesn't have firewire, so card ingesting will take longer. The processor should be fast enough. It has solid state memory so there is no hard drive to crash. It weighs a pound. 10 hour battery life. Multi-touch.
I blogged about it at http://francisspecker.com/blog/2010/1/27/will-the-ipad-work-for-photographe... |
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Dirk Dewachter, Photographer
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Playa Del Rey | CA | USA | Posted: 4:05 AM on 01.28.10 |
| ->> Lots of oppurtunities and although I have the necessary phones, laptops and desktops, i can see a use for it in the living room without having to turn on the computers I can check on things or research things as i watch television on the couch without a laptop laying on my legs because that is just too much like work. Other than that, in combination with Verizon's MyFi I can see all kinds of stuff with that. |
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Bastian Ehl, Photographer
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Magdeburg | _ | Germany | Posted: 6:41 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> I put my thoughts into a guest blog post over at the BlackStar blog:
http://rising.blackstar.com/will-the-ipad-save-photography.html
Beside the quality of content is paramount for success, I strongly believe the iPad will be the way out of the free editorial content on the web and the hurt it did to our industry. I even dare to say the days of the classic newspaper and magazine website are counted. It's finally time to get the pay-for-content-model running. |
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Neil Turner, Photographer
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Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 7:02 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> As a photographer I want to own one, not to use for uploading images but so that when my clients ask me to create content for one I am completely aware of what it is and how it works. We all read newspapers and magazines for years before we shot for them - it was part of growing up. With this new technology we don't have that luxury and so we will need to become familiar with it's faults, limitations and genius pretty quickly and for me that means owning one.
Neil |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 9:49 AM on 01.28.10 |
| ->> I'm going to wait a year (or two) until the good one (with lots of memory and 3G) comes in below $500. |
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Brad Moore, Photographer, Assistant
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Weston | MA | USA | Posted: 9:55 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> Gizmodo puts into words my thoughts better than I could.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad
No multitasking? Really? How can a netbook replacement not be able to allow Pandora or Itunes while surfing the web, or using the Photoshop App?
And no Flash? Like Gizmodo I can live without it on my iPhone, but not on something like this.
Apple makes some good products without a doubt, but sometimes their "new, revolutionary" products just aren't. |
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Eileen Blass, Photographer
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xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 10:23 AM on 01.28.10 |
| ->> When I can stream my Netflix movies on it, I will own one. |
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Robert Longhitano, Photographer
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North Wales | PA | USA | Posted: 11:13 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> I found a blog entry dated 6/8/2007. The blogger compiled quotes from the media/bloggers after the iPhone unveiling. It's funny reading the quotes about the demise of the iPhone BEFORE it even hit the street.
http://2aday.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/iphone-from-failure-to-45-million-sol.../
Not sure if the iPad will be successful or a flop but I'm going to get one. |
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Jeff Crace, Photographer
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Temecula | CA | USA | Posted: 11:35 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> Input and output
* Dock connector
* 3.5-mm stereo headphone jack
* Built-in speakers
* Microphone
* SIM card tray (Wi-Fi + 3G model only)
Mic and speakers....I wonder if Google Voice would work on it.....? |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 11:37 AM on 01.28.10 |
->> I think the new generation will be into this new iPad whereas the older will get into the color Kindle (coming this summer).
iPad is interactive. Kindle is not. The kindle is also not looking into an LCD to burn your eyes out.
Both are great but I have a computer for interactive stuff. I'm gonna wait for the color Kindle and read books in a non LCD way. I can't stand reading a book via LCD screen.
My two cents. |
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Robert Caplin, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:02 PM on 01.28.10 |
->> I have a feeling it's one of those situations where you have to hold it in your hands to truly appreciate it's value.
The app business is a huge money-making industry and as new apps are developed for the iPad much more worthwhile uses will come.
I already see many uses for the device and will probably be getting one after I hear the initial reviews. I'm sure the next version of the iPad will be far superior...but that's just how it goes. |
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Nigel Farrow, Photographer
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PJ Heller, Photographer
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Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 12:49 PM on 01.28.10 |
->> NYT's David Pogue on the iPad:
Like the iPhone, the iPad is really a vessel, a tool, a 1.5-pound sack of potential. It may become many things. It may change an industry or two, or it may not. It may introduce a new category -- something between phone and laptop -- or it may not. And anyone who claims to know what will happen will wind up looking like a fool.
Full column at http://tinyurl.com/ygtpn4v |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 3:03 PM on 01.28.10 |
->> Robert, you are correct when you write that the app business is a huge money maker.
Everyone thought the opening price point would be $999 - instead it's $499. The reason is simple: More unit sales translates into more app sales. They will make as much if not more money over the life of the product on apps sales than they will on the unit itself. |
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
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Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 3:42 PM on 01.28.10 |
->> I think PJ and Neil have the best points. The device is a blob of untouched clay at this point. It would make sense to learn as much about is possible so that once the molding begins, you can be a part of it.
Worst...metaphor...ever..... |
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Will Powers, Photographer
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Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 3:48 PM on 01.28.10 |
->> The expectation was high and if we got what was expected, it might have been worth $999. I think the expectation was for a computer, it isn't, any more than a watch with a calculator is a computer. It does some things that my MacBook g4 does. It does some stuff that my iPhone does, but it doesn't seem that it was meant to do what the MacBook Pro does. It will be a product for people that don't need a computer.
There was a time when the only way to get internet, email and music, was on a full fledged computer at $2k or more. If I didn't need Photoshop and some other programs, the iPad would be nearly perfect. |
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Rob Kerr, Photographer
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Bend | OR | US | Posted: 4:24 PM on 01.28.10 |
| ->> there have been a few comments on flash compatibility problems. really? ADOBE Flash? like lightroom and aperture, methinks there is a very good, unseen reason to not be flash compatible ... |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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