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Cheap video/flip cam
Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:05 PM on 01.24.10
->> Hi -- just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a small, cheap video camera. I've seen a handful of models at Adorama, B&H and the like in the $100 range.

I'm looking to make some videos of off-roading trucks and plan to mount the camera(s) on the outside of the vehicles.

I'm looking for decent quality at a bargain price. I don't need or want anything fancy or something that I'd feel guilty about if it should get crunched in action.

Thanks.

--Michael
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 12:16 PM on 01.24.10
->> http://www.google.com/search?q=how+do+I+use+photo+mechanic+to+check+actuations

Any of the first several pages will say.
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 12:16 PM on 01.24.10
->> That ended up on the wrong thread... Sorry about that!
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 01.24.10
->> Michael - They are a little more than $100, but the Kodak ZI8 might worth looking into. They have a few more options than the Flip including an external mic input. I was at a workshop yesterday where a few people used them and the footage looked really nice. BTW they shoot HD 1080p. It looks like they have a new camera called a Playsport with some weatherproofing and IS as well.
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Ric Tapia, Photographer, Photo Editor
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 12:25 PM on 01.24.10
->> Flip Video Camera's

http://www.theflip.com/en-us/
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 12:27 PM on 01.24.10
->> You may even want to look into something like this:

http://www.tomguilmette.com/wp/my-blog/archives/2468
http://www.tomguilmette.com/wp/my-blog/archives/2268

..He actually mounts it to a vehicle in the second link, similar to what you'd like to do.

Here's the B&H link:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/653981-REG/VholdR_1300_ContourHD_1080...

I saw one of these in use a few months back at a motorcycle ice racing event and the footage was incredible. Not as cheap as you were looking for, but the results would probably be worth it.
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:44 AM on 01.25.10
->> Stephen -- on your advice I was checking out Kodak's website and saw this little gem:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/PLAYSPORT_Video_Camera/produ...

I think that might hit the spot. I'll see if I can track one down.
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:00 AM on 01.25.10
->> Upon further review, it's not available until April. I'd like to use it next month.
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Max Gersh, Photographer
St. Louis | MO | USA | Posted: 9:12 AM on 01.25.10
->> Sony has a couple of cheap HD cams. They are the "Webbie" series. There is one that is about the size of the flip and one that is a bit larger and camcorder shaped.

http://tinyurl.com/8ujf62

I think they are $150 for the flip style and $200 for the camcorder style.
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Stephen Brashear, Photographer, Assistant
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 9:14 AM on 01.25.10
->> Michael - Yeah I saw that too there. It looks like the ZX1 (http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/Zx1_Pocket_Video_Camera/prod...) has some weatherproofing too. Not as robust at the Playsport and only 720p, but I imagine that is okay for most applications.
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Trevor Brown, Photographer, Assistant
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 9:24 AM on 01.25.10
->> Hey Michael, I have the kodak Zi8 and my wife and I love it for easy, quick, brainless shooting.

As mentioned above, the main reasons I went with it vs a flip are....

1080
External Mic input
Image Stabilization
SD card slot (whereas the flip has internal/fixed storage that you can't change).

The footage is great out of it in daylight scenarios. In darker situations, it gets a little noisy, but that's to be expected from a $150 camera.

Hope that helps.
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:58 AM on 01.25.10
->> It's been brought to my attention (courtesy of fellow SSer Matthias Krause) that the "rolling shutter effect" might cause a problem for video that moves fast in any direction (and by that a wobbly camera would exacerbate that problem. He suggested a camra that uses a CCD chip as opposed to a CMOS one.

Any thoughts? Have any of you used a flip-type camera for shooting off-roading or the like?

Again, this is basically for me and the guys I hang with -- it's not for a client.
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