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F Stop question
Dean Legge, Assistant
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Aiken | SC | USA | Posted: 4:21 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> I;m using some remotes for basketball... I am not using strobes. I was wondering what F stop y'all use for backboard, overhead and on the arm of the basket shot. I am assuming that you are not using 2.8, so that's what I'm wondering...
I am using a D700 and a few D2Hs. Most of my cameras are 2.8s,
I was just wondering about what settings you use... I find, unfortunately,that I have to use 1600 ISO with the D2Hs, which is not nearly the quality I'd like... but that's another story.
I am just wondering how far y'all push it... |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 4:48 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> Dean,
You push it as far as you have to in order to get the correct exposure.
I think you meant that your lenses are f/2.8 (not your cameras).
A D700 should give you good results at ISO 1600, but you need an equivalent shutter speed that will allow you to stop action and produce the correct exposure.
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Dean Legge, Assistant
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Aiken | SC | USA | Posted: 5:01 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> Yes, the lenses... sorry about that. And yes, the D700 is not really the problem - the D2Hs are...
What f Stop are you going with out there? |
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:24 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> enough to have sufficient depth of field to make sure the eyes and hand are in focus.
f/8 and be there. |
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Les Stukenberg, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Prescott Valley | AZ | USA | Posted: 5:26 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> Dean,
It depends on the lighting in the gym you are shooting in. To get the correct exposure which is set through shutter speed and f/stop. |
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | US | Posted: 5:27 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> I wouldn't set a remote to shoot without strobes...so when I do I'd use f/5.6 or 8.
This is easy...what is the exposure reading in the arena/gym? |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 5:33 PM on 01.07.10 |
| ->> Dean, the easiest answer is, whatever F-stop that will give you a fast enough shutter speed to stop the action. If you are shooting from the floor at 1/500th and 2.8 at ISO 1600, you are probably going to find a similar exposure shooting through the backboard or maybe even 1/400th (shooting through glass may effect your exposure. The playing around with backboard remotes that I have done (and I use strobes) I find that around F5.6 to F8 works for me depending on the lens. At 17mm (my widest), I like a F8 because I get more in the image than the hoop and the player at the hoop, I get some players on the floor around the key, and I like having them visible (I am doing this for sales to high school parents and if their kid is in the picture, they will buy, so if he is on the floor, half in frame, but not out of the DOF, it is a possible sale). When I use 24mm, I look at around a 5.6 aperture. At that close a range (what, 3 to 4 feet) and 2.8 DOF will be pretty narrow, and 5.6 should be wide enough, but starting out until you get a feel for it, F8 would be where you would want to start, but shooting ambient light, unless you can properly expose at 1/500 and F8 (or F5.6) you are probably going to be getting between 1/125 and 1/250th shutter speeds, which will give you motion blur in any action shots. |
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Dean Legge, Assistant
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Aiken | SC | USA | Posted: 6:36 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> First of all... thanks to all for the responses.
Here are the examples I am talking about
http://thedawgpost.com/2010/mbb/20100105/index.html
This is the first time I have tried remotes, and the results are not totally what I am looking for. If I was rolling out there with a bunch of D3s or D700s I know the photos would be better... rocking out at 1600 on a D2Hs is no fun.
I was using D2Hs for the remotes...
On the backboard I used a 28mm lens. I was at F 5.6, 1600, 250 (which I think is a little too slow, but it worked ok), I wanted to get the depth of field... and I realize my focus was a little off - so I get that part. I am going to work on that - that is very correctable.
On the catwalk I used a 80-200 at 110mm. I was at F 5.6, 1600, 250 - and those shots were not that great to me - perhaps too wide. I wanted to use a 300mm or even my 400, but I was a little skiddish about those two considering this was my first real deal try at this... and the catwalk, too can make you nervous... Georgia is about football - not basketball and the catwalk proves it. I am 6-4, 240, and worried about falling to the ground half the time because of the unsteady nature of parts of the catwalk... but I know they could be neat shots... to I tried.
I was able to shoot F 4, 3200, 1000 with the D700 and the images are remarkably better. I know that If I were to set the D700 up as the remote I would get remarkably better shots there... but I'm not in that boat right now.
Carl - thanks. I will try to push the D700 to F8 on a remote sometime soon, but then my handheld is going to be junky... but that's what I am working with...
Thanks for any further advice on the gallery above... |
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Ric Tapia, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 9:35 PM on 01.07.10 |
->> I have shot remotes at f/2.8 and f/4 without lights. It doesn't leave any room for error but its possible. The times that I have used lights with remotes I have used f/5.6 or f/8. This makes life a lot easier.
Its not impossible but its not easy. |
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