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Mark IV trickling in?
Corbey Dorsey, Photographer, Photo Editor
Cozad | NE | USA | Posted: 8:58 PM on 01.06.10
->> Anyone know of early Mark IV's ready for purchase at any retailers??
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 9:16 PM on 01.06.10
->> They are being delivered in very short quantities.

Amazon is shipping and I heard Adorama did too.

How much you want to bet that most Freelance Shooters are going to be some of the last ones to get it and every other GWC in America will have one or two!!

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Les Schofer, Assistant
Lynchburg | VA | USA | Posted: 11:11 PM on 01.06.10
->> My friend got his from Samy's today, and he's a freelancer.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:18 PM on 01.06.10
->> Yes, some, but if you look at DPR, most GWC's are already shooting the customary DPR Cats in Low Light and OOF and I know of guys that need the cameras for NFL Playoffs and can't find one to do their jobs!!

There is something to be said for NPS's Priority Purchase Program, Pros can get the gear they need to do their jobs. Hate to sound like a snob, but it sucks that folks I know that need the gear can't find one.
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Andrew Fredrickson, Photographer
Seattle | WA | United States | Posted: 11:27 PM on 01.06.10
->> I heard from someone on the waiting list that Glazers in Seattle got a shipment of 3 mkIV's, and he's #4 on the list... So I'm assuming they will start to show up in the next few days to all the retailers in bunches.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:51 PM on 01.06.10
->> Showing up, yes, Bunches, Doubt it!!

I was told by a reputable dealer that they don't really know when and how many they will get. I was trying to score one for a fellow Sports Shooter that actually needs one for work!!
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Jared Wickerham, Student/Intern, Photographer
Pittsburgh | PA | U.S.A. | Posted: 2:18 AM on 01.07.10
->> I'm among those trying to get a hold of one too. I guess I'll call around tomorrow and hope for the best!
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Mitch Stringer, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 7:36 AM on 01.07.10
->> Mine arrived yesterday. Thanks Jeff Snyder at Adorama.
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Rick Osentoski, Photographer
Martin | OH | United States | Posted: 8:21 AM on 01.07.10
->> I ordered one on the day of the announcement and got in on Monday. I am also on a waiting list for a second but that was after some of the early review so it could be awhile before I here anything on that one.
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Alan Herzberg, Photographer
Elm Grove | WI | USA | Posted: 9:38 AM on 01.07.10
->> I put myself on the wait list at Roberts on Oct 20 but haven't heard "boo" yet. This kind of reminds me of waiting for Christmas morning when I was 7 years old and waiting for my presents.

Anybody got one from Roberts yet?
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:09 AM on 01.07.10
->> LOL, I just got a Nasty E-Mail from a Former SS.com member, he wants to remind us of our arrogant Egos......

I guess wanting Something like the NPS Priority Purchase Program form CPS is being arrogant and all Nikon Users are arrogant!! Great one!!

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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 11:30 AM on 01.07.10
->> Yamil, you photographic elitist snob, you! :)
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:41 AM on 01.07.10
->> Thanks Jeff!!

Proud of it!!

Just got another nasty E-mail!!

This time, stating that you don't need high ISO for NFL Games!!!

They seem to forget that some or many MKIII's Can't focus worth crap and the fellow needing the MKIV has been dealing with the MKIII Nightmare for too long.

Interesting Direct mails from Non Members!!
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 12:25 PM on 01.07.10
->> Me and a buddy got ours today. We should have had them on Monday, but fed ex lost the shipment.
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Kevin Seale, Photographer
Crawfordsville | IN | United States | Posted: 1:27 PM on 01.07.10
->> Yamil, Why didn't your friends and fellow pros take the 2 minutes it would have required to get on the waiting list like those who are receiving their cameras now?
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:57 PM on 01.07.10
->> They Did!! Just not on the Right stores!!

Try calling some stores and see what they tell you!!

Contact me off line and I can give you one that will surprise you!!

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David Seelig, Photographer
Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 1:57 PM on 01.07.10
->> The second the rumor came out I got on a waiting list but that does not mean allb stores have gotten cameras yet.
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John Vanacore, Photographer
North Haven | CT | | Posted: 2:36 PM on 01.07.10
->> FYI....It shows that KEH in Georgia has them in stock on their website, for those looking for one.

www.keh.com
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John Vanacore, Photographer
North Haven | CT | | Posted: 2:40 PM on 01.07.10
->> Here's a link to the actual Mk IV item page

http://www.keh.com/Product-Details/1/DC029991110490/DC02/FE.aspx
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | Lower 48 | Posted: 2:54 PM on 01.07.10
->> GWC? DPR?? OOF??? Cats in Low Light!?!?!

Yamil ... to quote the great Jeffrey Lebowski, "What in God's holy name are you blathering about!?"

- gerry -
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Jared Wickerham, Student/Intern, Photographer
Pittsburgh | PA | U.S.A. | Posted: 4:02 PM on 01.07.10
->> KEH had one but sold it apparently.
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Brian Dowling, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 01.07.10
->> Adorama got 20 in on Monday. My friend bought two and I died of jealousy. Its probably best to get on a list as they are going for $500 over msrp on eBay.
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Andrew Nelles, Photographer
Chicago | IL | usa | Posted: 4:45 PM on 01.07.10
->> I got the KEH camera, thanks for the tip John.
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 4:53 PM on 01.07.10
->> G.J.

GWC = Guys With Cameras
MWC = Moms With Cameras
DWC = Dads With Cameras

(typically have day jobs and sell 4x6 photos for $2 or give away pictures at the banquet. They ask TONS of questions on the sideline and badmouth professionals for charging so much)

DPR = Digital Preview
http://www.dpreview.com/

OOF =Out Of Focus

Cats in Low Light = Cats in Low Light (Seriously...GWC will shoot pictures of their cats/dogs/whatever in low light (their living room/studio) to show off the features of the camera.

I think these are all accurate.

Delane
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Kevin Clifford, Photographer
Reno | NV | United States | Posted: 5:00 PM on 01.07.10
->> G.J,

In case you need find out what the kids are saying these day, try searching it up on the urban dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:09 PM on 01.07.10
->> Delane, thanks for the translation!!

BTW, DPR= Digital Photo Review

Here's your first Cats in low light Thread at DPR:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=34173025

I don't know which one is worse, the MKIV obove or the D3s here:


http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=34176136

Yup, someone just purchased a $5K camera for these Images.....


It will soon be followed by the "Hot Dog in the Porch" sequence and the weeds growing through the deck sequence!! Wait for them, they will soon show up.

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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:12 PM on 01.07.10
->> BTW,

The Nastygrams form Nic1 from sports-star-photos.com keep coming!!

Who is this Nic1???

I don't engage in Nastygrarams with individuals that don't even have the common courtesy to put their real names insulting E-Mails.

I guess some Fanboy feelings got hurt....

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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | Lower 48 | Posted: 6:14 PM on 01.07.10
->> Kevin:

Thanks for the note. I've actually been a fan of Urban Dictionary for years now. But the alphabet soup on here (SS) goes over my head a lot of the time.

I guess I'm more a fan of the irreverent, clever and culturally-relevant definitions contained in the former, and less of the posturing and "make me feel better about myself" stuff I see on here.

But that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, thanks all for the clarifications.

Cheers,

- a guy with a camera who takes many out-of-focus pictures and often snaps photographs of his cats in low light -
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:26 PM on 01.07.10
->> G.J.

I often shoot my 17 Lb Kitty in low light too!!
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 5:09 PM on 01.08.10
->> My local indie camera shop got two in today - while I would love to pick one up myself its just in the (credit) cards for me right now.

If anyone is in need, they are sitting in the box, unopened.

Call Russ's Camera (Chuck or Derek) at 805.963.9558 and have one shipped!

EMI
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Anantachai Brown, Photographer
Jacksonville | FL | | Posted: 5:16 PM on 01.08.10
->> here is an interesting post for those looking to buy a Mark IV in a hurry. the guy isn't feeling much love from the FMr's.


http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/853875
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 6:34 PM on 01.08.10
->> "Try calling some stores and see what they tell you!!"

There are only three stores to call: Penn Camera, Roberts and Adorama. The day camera is announced is the day you call one of these three and do a credit card hold for the amount. When the MarkII came out I had mine I believe three days after the hit the shelves. Penn beat our Roberts by an hour. When I bought the 40D, same thing, had one three days after the stores put them out on the shelf. In that match Roberts beat out Penn. The score is tied at 1-all. The next op will be when the Mark IV (I don't need a mark 3 or 5 and by the time the 5 comes out service on the original MK2 will be discontinued by Canon.

While I haven't bought anything yet from Adorama, now that Jeff Synder is there I've added them to my release day call list.
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 9:12 PM on 01.08.10
->> Clark: Unless I'm not understanding you correctly, There's more than three stores that you can call to get on a list. I was on a list and it wasn't at any of those places and I got one already.
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Brian Westerholt, Photographer
Kannapolis | NC | USA | Posted: 9:21 PM on 01.08.10
->> Monty - in a roundabout way I think Clark was saying to support the sponsors of SS.com without coming right out and saying it. :-)
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 9:28 PM on 01.08.10
->> Forgot Sammy's, they're a Sponsor too!!

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Wesley Hitt, Photographer
Fayetteville | AR | USA | Posted: 10:29 PM on 01.08.10
->> My Mark IV came in today at my local camera store.

Can't wait to play with it tomorrow. Swimming and gymnastics.
Both bad lighting.
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Eric Isaacs, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 1:29 AM on 01.09.10
->> While I appreciate the sponsors here at SS I think its simplistic to claim they are the only place to buy equipment. We are all part of numerous communities including the online community of sportsshooter.

I also do my best to support local independent businesses. You know, the places people go and put fingerprints all over the brand new equipment, ask tons of questions and monopolize salespeople's time before going online and using their new-found knowledge to buy their products cheaply without paying sales tax (which is technically illegal by the way)


If one of the sponsors has what you need, great. If they don't, there's no reason to shame people in to avoiding other resources.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:45 AM on 01.09.10
->> Eric,

You do have a point, but.... Some of our sponsors ARE Brick & Mortar stores, they are just in another state!!

But I would never say don't buy locally, I often do.

BTW, when you buy out of state, it's your obligation to pay "Use Tax" Not "Sales Tax"

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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 2:47 AM on 01.09.10
->> Mine came in today, got the call!

too bad I couldn't afford it. Rats! Finances had to be redirect elsewhere.
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Monty Rand, Photographer
Bangor | ME | USA | Posted: 11:42 AM on 01.09.10
->> I have no problem with any of the sponsors. I just have a great relationship with one store in particular and they take care of me. Anytime a new camera is announced they know to automatically put me at the top of the list along with a friend of mine. He actually turned me on to them and has had a longer relationship with them. I'm going to assume that many of our sponsor stores have great relationships with a lot of working pros. So when a new camera is announced how do they decide who goes to the top?
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 11:49 AM on 01.09.10
->> I'm not doubting Clark's success with his release-day strategy, and I'm not questioning the value of dealing with any of the site sponsors.

I will say my experience has been somewhat different with waiting lists, however, and I won't name names here, but you can contact me if you want to know. I've now been on lists for two different models with the same sponsor; the first time, another sponsor had the camera available in regular stock -- had filled its waiting list and had more on hand -- two weeks before I was contacted by the other. Let's just say I already had used the camera for a couple of assignments before that call came from the first sponsor.

This time I'm reading on this site that the sponsor from whom I bought that camera already got a good-sized shipment and is filling orders. I've been on a waiting list with that first sponsor since midnight when the camera was announced. But I'll bet my $4,995 that I'll be spending it again with the one I bought from the last time.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 4:41 PM on 01.09.10
->> Monty, sorry for the confusion and yes, Eric Issacs, there are more than three store folks can contact to be put on waiting lists to purchase new gear. The three I listed are my recommendation simply because when I was gear chaser as many who are posting to this thread are, they provided far and above the kind of service I expected being a nobody, meat and tater shooter out of the midwest.

Oh, and Brian is right about my 'roundabout' :-)

I also re-read my post and I made mistake - sorry - I meant to say the three stores will be the first that I call when Canon announces the Mark V.

Yamil wrote, "Forgot Sammy's, they're a Sponsor too!!"
I didn't forget Samy's. My experience with them has underwhelming when I tried to purchase items from them in the past.

You don't have a choice but to do business with a camera a vendor that calls you back within portions of an hour of leaving a message instead of days or weeks if that. I sure other photographers have received average to excellent service from Samy's as well as others have from shops around the country. That's great! I've never had the opportunity with Samy's despite my attempts in the past during the three year period when I was acquiring equipment.

Roberts and Penn have met my needs in timely manner for eight years and until their level of service proves otherwise, they will always be my first choice for new gear when I'm in the market for it. My post was not to be a directive, but a glowing recommendation for the two outfits that always exceeded my expectations and tip for those still chasing gear can use to speed up the acquisition process for the camera equipment they desire.
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