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The Switch is On!
William Guerro, Photographer
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Galloway | NJ | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> Well after MUCH debate since SSA last April, where I got to Demo all the Nikon Gear. (The Image quality was unreal when I shot Water Polo with the D3).
I am Making the Switch to Nikon, the only draw back will be, for a short while I will have a little less gear. But I can live with that.
After viewing Dave Blacks January Edition of "Workshop at the Ranch" and seeing the unreal quality in the higher ISO Range the thinking and debating was over. I am putting my order in for the new D3s plus the new 70-200 Lens along with a 900 Flash and the 1.7 Extender.
I will be looking to get the 200-400 and the 24-70 in the near future.
Now my only worry is, will I have the D3S body in time for Spring Training. With word of some orders starting to be filled already I should be safe with 7 weeks until Spring Training starts. I HOPE! |
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Pete Gawlik, Photographer
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Brighton | East Sussex | United Kingdom | Posted: 4:51 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> I'm gonna make the switch as well.
Like you I two will have to do it slowly, but as it's time to upgrade anyway I don't feel I'm starting over again. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 4:53 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> Good luck with the switch William. I hope it all works out for you. I know that the d3s is a very nice body. |
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 5:00 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> So, why is it that whenever someone switches from one brand to another an announcement is made?
Am I missing something? Does anyone really care?
This is not meant to be critical of anyone but just a question I have. |
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Pete Gawlik, Photographer
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Brighton | East Sussex | United Kingdom | Posted: 5:11 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> I'm interested when someone switches, I guess its because for a long time now I've been really disappointed with how my canon performs in bad light and I just want to get an insight into what others think of the other brands. |
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Shelley Cryan, Photographer
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New England | CT | USA | Posted: 5:32 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> Oh Pete, you may have opened a can of worms....
Note to self: Don't click on this thread anymore..... |
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
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Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 5:37 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> I have to agree with Mike, why make an announcement when switches are made? |
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Scott A. Schneider, Photographer
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Minneapolis | MN | USA | Posted: 5:45 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> I switched to boxers many years ago but am thinking of going back to briefs. |
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Pete Gawlik, Photographer
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Brighton | East Sussex | United Kingdom | Posted: 6:07 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> Scott, stick with boxers far more dignified !!! |
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Michael Ip, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 6:11 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> Sell me your canon gear for cheap. I'm not switching. My gear works fine... except when it breaks. |
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William Guerro, Photographer
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Galloway | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:54 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> I think some one definitely needs to go with boxers. Amazing how cranky people get with tight shorts. |
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Codie McLachlan, Photographer
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Edmonton | AB | Canada | Posted: 7:23 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> Why NOT talk about it when a switch is made? If you're really that uninterested, all you have to do is click "back" and ignore the thread. |
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Robert Seale, Photographer
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 8:04 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> JERRY: So as you can see, I've got a bit of a problem here.
GEORGE: Well, if I hear you correctly--and I think that I do--my advice to you is to finish your meal, pay your check, leave here, and never mention this to anyone again.
JERRY: Can't be done, huh?
GEORGE: The Switch?
JERRY: "The Switch."
GEORGE: Can't be done.
JERRY: I wonder.
GEORGE: Do you realize in the entire history of western civilization no one has successfully accomplished the Roommate Switch? In the Middle Ages you could get locked up for even suggesting it! |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:16 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> To be honest I think it irritates a lot of people when people announce they are switching systems because, in some cases (which I happen to have personally witnessed) a lot of times switches are made by people with more money than sense who just want to have the brightest, shiniest new toy in the press room. So it irritates those who struggle to keep what little equipment they have in working order much less switching and buying a new system every other month. I don't want anyone to get their knickers in a twist but really, if you're curious about the difference between one system and another and have pointed questions, by all means start a thread asking for some input. In reality no one cares if you're switching from nikon to canon to pentax to leica to samsung to hassleblad to sigma to olympus to sony to fuji to holga and back again. |
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Mike Doran, Photographer
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Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 8:32 PM on 01.02.10 |
| ->> My sentiments exactly. |
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Brad Barr, Photographer
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Port St. Lucie | FL | USA | Posted: 9:33 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> If you look at the number of viewers on any major forum..you'll find the gear forums have by far the highest number of readers..why?? cause we all like to fiddle with our gear and talk about it. If you don't then fine. But you opened this thread knowing the title said I'm switching....so I guess I dont see the point in asking why....obviously..because photographers like to discuss gear related issues, and switching the entire lineup is certainly a gear related issue.
As for the original post....you wont be sorry. I did it, and there have been huge numbers of photographers swinging back to nikon. One only needs to compare the numbers of "white" lenses at any major sporting event now compared to 2 years ago...where "black" lenses were almost non existent. There is a reason. And yes, its justifiable if the image matters to you. Just ask anyone who has done it. Not saying you couldnt do it with Canon...but the af is better, more accurate, and better made. Canons Q/C just isnt up to snuff. Issues of all types of Q/C related problems have been well documented and rampant....ie backfocus issues on many of their main lenses..ie 24-70...the entire MK3 debacle...the 50L front element falling off "thing"....etc etc etc. Sooner or later you get tired of that kind of crap. Not to mention having many more things at a buttons push rather than buried in menus is handy....as are dials that wont spin when your camera is at your side the way they do with non 1-series canon bodies.
the list goes on. To say there is no difference is simply turning a blind eye to the truth. You cant blame the entire wave of switchers on "having too much money and just wanting the latest". Thats just not looking at reality. There are good reasons....if those reasons are not important to you, then thats fine. But why take a shot at someone who to whom these things do make a difference???
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 10:29 PM on 01.02.10 |
->> For those switching, beware of a couple differences.
1. If you bump the MF ring while trying to focus, you'll stop the AF in its tracks. Those who shoot Canon can use both the AF/MF at the same time. Only the newest Nikon lenses allow that. I think the new 300 is one that will let MF/AF work simultaneously.
2. On the D700 set a2 AF-S Priority Selection to release. By default focus is selected. Trouble is you can't preset your focus and just shoot unless you change the in-camera custom setting to release priority. Focus priority requires the camera check focus once more before it releases the shutter and there's a risk you'll miss your shot. |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 12:06 AM on 01.03.10 |
->> Scott:
Third choice: Commando :)
William and Pete, enjoy. Remember, it's still the nut behind the viewfinder that counts the most. On the other hand, it's quite a viewfinder.
Michael |
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Mike Anzaldi, Photographer
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Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 12:40 AM on 01.03.10 |
->> i wish i had more money than sense. maybe i do.
how do you tell? |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 1:18 AM on 01.03.10 |
| ->> got 50 cents in your pocket? then you know. |
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Darrell Miho, Photographer
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 5:20 AM on 01.03.10 |
->> While Chuck and Brad both make good points, where I think Chuck and others being critical of this post are missing the point is that this isn't so much an "announcement" that so-and-so is switching ("look at me! I have more money than sense!") as it is an explanation as to WHY one shooter made the not-insignificant decision to switch systems.
Years ago, Nikon's D1-series was killing Canon because Canon didn't offer a serious digital body. That was good to know. Then Canon's DSLRs were murdering Nikon with better pixel count, high-ISO performance, and (ironically) AF. That was good to know. Nikon tossed out another game-changer with the D3, and Canon may or may not have laid an egg with the Mk III - also good to know. And finally Canon may be pulling even with the Mk IV...all good to know.
This is much different from simple camera-bashing that goes on all too often.
So...as some have suggested, lighten up, put on your boxers, or do like Kramer and free yourself completely...and just appreciate what others are sharing about their equipment choices. Or go read something else. Geesh.
(Note: I'm a 20+ year Nikon shooter who'd rather fight than switch, but I pride myself on having a decent understanding of Canon's system and its strengths and weaknesses.) |
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
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Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 10:32 AM on 01.03.10 |
| ->> Insignifance is In! If you don't think so, try explaining why millions of people are Tweeting. IMO, that's the epitome of insignificance. |
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Keith Coward, Photographer
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Lincolnton | NC | USA | Posted: 1:55 PM on 01.03.10 |
| ->> Darren's point is well made, but not entirely correct. It is correct with the camera set up as he's stated...but if you want to pre-focus and just shoot, then you can set the D3S to focus only using the AF-ON button and the shutter release button is just that...a shutter release. Quite a few sports shooters use this setup as it seems to do a better job of tracking the subject when you assign focus to one button and shutter release to another. The AF-ON button is easily reached with your thumb, and the shutter release with your fore finger... |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Northwest Missouri | MO | USA | Posted: 2:47 PM on 01.03.10 |
->> Keith,
I wash shooting with the D700 and on that model, the shutter wouldn't trip at all. I do use the AF-On button for AF exclusively but because it insisted on focus checking, it wouldn't fire. If I held the shutter button down halfway after the initial AF, it was fine, but if you let off the AF at all you had to have a focus confirmation before the shutter would release. No idea about whether that has changed on the D3s, but you'd have to be in the darkest depths of a room to even test it. I was in the attic of a historic home with flying bats when I ran across the issue.
BTW, thanks for the huh? folks. I really don't care or take offense. I can understand some people don't understand what I had to say or why I'd say it here, but it has to do with reasons you might actually find Nikon inconvenient to use other than economic hardship. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 01.03.10 |
->> Proud Nikon user since 1981
my husband is a Proud Canon user since 1978
and they said mixed marriages don't work...HA! |
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