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Derrick Roland NCAA Career ending Injury
Jesse Beals, Photographer
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Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 10:04 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> Thought I would share this with you the sportshooter members. I loaded photos from the UW Vs Texas A&M game on my profile page. The shots you will see are pretty graphic of Derrick Roland and his NCAA career ending injury.
I have been getting a lot of e-mails from friends and fellow photographers asking if I was at the game and if I had any photos. |
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David Welker, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 10:07 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> WHOA!!! didnt hear about that.. thanks for sharing. |
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Thomas Cain, Student/Intern, Photographer
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New Haven | CT | USA | Posted: 10:35 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> Did any of these pictures get published? |
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Eileen Blass, Photographer
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xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 10:36 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> Jesse,
This was a pretty gruesome injury. I'm not sure I would have posted the pictures here as well as suggesting a link to your picture over at ESPN as you did. But that's just me. It's a free country. There were other images to be made in the aftermath of this horrible injury. I think I might have included some of those instead of four pictures of the poor guy with a horribly snapped leg. It was a bit much. Sorry, just being honest. |
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Derick Hingle, Photographer
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Hammond | LA | USA | Posted: 10:36 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> Ouch, looks very similar to the injury D'Andre Brown of Southern Miss suffered last year in the New Orleans Bowl, he returned this season and had a stellar season returning from a horrific injury. |
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Richard Wolowicz, Photographer
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Brossard | QC | Canada | Posted: 10:40 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> Eileen ... that's photojournalism.
Good or bad ... it's newsworthy.
Jesse ... thanks for posting. Strong stuff.
Rich |
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Eileen Blass, Photographer
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xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 10:49 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> Richard,
I've been a photojournalist for 30 years so I know what photojournalism is and I've seen my share of broken stuff. I did say it was a free country and, yup, Jesse can do what he wants. I personally would have been more sensitive. But, like I said...that's just me. I can also have an opinion without being told it's photojournalism. Thanks. |
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Matthew Bush, Photographer
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Hattiesburg | MS | USA | Posted: 10:57 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> I back Richard up 100% It was a major event why wouldn't he shoot it ? It is a very strong image of a horrible event.
I covered the D'Andre Brown break and was actually rolling video when it happened. The link is below. We caught heck for posting it but we also got a ton of calls from the coaches thanking us because they were able to break down what happened. I was t shooting still's when D-Brown brought down a TD in the same end-zone a year later.
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/section/VideoNetwork#/Sports/DeAndre+Brown+Injury/46204256001/46206320001/49028419001 |
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Matthew Bush, Photographer
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Hattiesburg | MS | USA | Posted: 11:01 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> I do respect Eileen's opinion though I hope I did not come off as snide as that was not my intention. I enjoy her work at USAT and in no way meant any disrespect. |
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Matthew Bush, Photographer
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Hattiesburg | MS | USA | Posted: 11:06 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> Jesse- Do you have this image from the overhead remote angle that you used for your first image ? I think that might be the story teller if you have it ... It would be a high image and not as graphic as the low angles but I think It would tell the story seeing him on the court. |
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Eileen Blass, Photographer
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xxxxx | xx | USA | Posted: 11:24 PM on 12.26.09 |
->> Matthew,
Your opinion did not come off as snide at all. I respect your opinion as I do everyone's on this message board. I would like to clarify that I never said Jesse shouldn't shoot the picture. I would shoot a picture that was hard to look at, and I have had to. Ultimately, it's my editor who decides if a difficult picture gets published.
My point was that Jesse posted four pictures of the guy with his leg mangled on his page. I might have also showed other pictures that told the story further besides four pictures of a mangled leg. What we all strive to do here, I hope, is storytelling. Ultimately, it's not just just about a graphic picture. It's about what's visually going on around a terrible situation like this one that tells a story. |
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David Manning, Photographer
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Athens | GA | | Posted: 11:57 PM on 12.26.09 |
| ->> Reminds me of Joe Theisman's injury being replayed endlessly on Monday Night Football. |
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Jesse Beals, Photographer
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Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 12:02 AM on 12.27.09 |
| ->> Sorry no overhead shots, I shot the first half from the cat walk with camera in hand without a remote. As for posting these, I kept seeing people linking to the video that really did not show the entire event that unfolded. These photos show the lay up as he went up and the after math of him on the floor. As soon as the trainers got to him you couldn't see anything because everybody rushed around him on the floor. Unless you were on the second level you couldn't get a shot of what was going on. |
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Jesse Beals, Photographer
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Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 12:42 AM on 12.27.09 |
->> Eileen, by posting these I wanted to let the younger sports shooters out there see that not always sports goes on in a game and sometimes you need to make a judgement call on what to shoot. I know these are tuff to look at, I fired off a few frames from the floor and called it good.
I watched the TV crew stand over Derrick, but that I felt was going over the line. I shot what I seen from my floor and left it at that. Even when the floor filled with medical help, I could have gotten up and walked around to get more shots, but I felt that was probably stepping over the line. I felt I had the moment captured and left it at that.
Sorry if these images offended you in any way. I was asked today by the doctor who did the surgery on Derrick who seen these photos, if I would be willing to give him copies. The doctors would like to teach students in the UW medical program how to anticipate sports injuries and what to do if this injury happens again. |
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
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Boise | ID | US | Posted: 1:03 AM on 12.27.09 |
->> That's the kind of thing that happens when you've got stress fractures undetected... For those two injuries it just feels like shin splints; the difference is that shin splints don't hurt with high frequency vibrations (ie a tuning fork or ultrasound treatment).
Nerd moment. Move along! |
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Matthew Bush, Photographer
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Hattiesburg | MS | USA | Posted: 1:08 AM on 12.27.09 |
| ->> Israel that is excatly what happened with D-Brown. Undetected stress fractures that happened earlier in the season and a misstep that would have otherwise been no big deal. |
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Jon Eilts, Photographer, Student/Intern
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College Station | TX | USA | Posted: 1:13 AM on 12.27.09 |
| ->> Texas A&M is going to miss him. I have covered nearly every Texas A&M home game for the past few seasons and he has helped them out repeatedly. |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 2:37 AM on 12.27.09 |
| ->> Injuries are apart of sports. Wicked injury but he should be okay with todays tech. |
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:51 PM on 12.27.09 |
->> Anybody remember Joe Theismann's Compound Fracture in 1985?? That one happened live on TV and there's video out there to prove it.
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