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Okay I did it - Now what
Mike Doran, Photographer
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Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 8:31 PM on 12.09.09 |
| ->> I went and bought a Canon 7D today with a grip and now the question I have is for those of you who own one. What movie software are you using? I was told just use the Canon software. This is new ground for me. Thanks in advance. |
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Nick Adams, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | | Posted: 8:45 PM on 12.09.09 |
->> If you have a mac,
try using imovie hd or imovie
both are very easy to use and are the basics. |
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
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Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 9:44 PM on 12.09.09 |
->> Definitely don't use the Canon software, whatever that is. ZoomBrowser or the like? No way.
Yes, as Nick said, depending on your platform, iMovie is a good starting point on Macs. Have you any prior video editing experience at all? If so, Final Cut Pro or Express would be the next step(s) up.
On PC, which unfortunately is my system, there are Adobe Premier, Pinnacle Studio and Sony Vegas. On the super high end, there's Avid, but I'm guessing that's not the route you'll be taking. The biggest problem with editing on PC is that the file that the 7D cranks out (.mov) is not native to PC editing. I purchased a copy of Cineform Neoscene and can edit the full HD files with Vegas really smoothly in real time. Highly recommended.
On the Mac, MPEG Streamclip works for converting the files quickly for editing as well.
I see that you shoot a lot of action sports, which will make the 1280x720 or 640x480 60fps modes really useful. I was experimenting a bit with it tonight at a basketball game between breaks in still shooting, and the results were exceptional. Super smooth slow-mo footage.
Anyway, congrats on the purchase! I've had mine for a week now and love everything about it. |
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Max Waugh, Photographer
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Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 10:08 PM on 12.09.09 |
| ->> FWIW, I have no movie editing background and was able to learn enough about iMovie on the fly to edit my time lapse piece in two nights. I echo the thoughts that it's a good starting point if you have a Mac. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:13 PM on 12.09.09 |
| ->> is there a way to put music and/or overlay other speaking parts in IMovie? For the life of me I can't figure out how to do it |
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 10:18 PM on 12.09.09 |
->> Debra, Yes, you can add audio tracks with iMovie. It's been a long time since I've used it and the version that I have is pretty old. So I can't walk you through the process. I suggest one of the "Missing Manuals" for iMovie. They're pretty good.
--Mark |
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Nick Adams, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | | Posted: 10:37 PM on 12.09.09 |
->> click the music symbol.
then drag.
then click the speaker button, it will allow you to make adjustments.
its easier and you have more control on imovie hd, you drop the audio clip below the movie one, then edit as you wish. |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 11:29 PM on 12.09.09 |
| ->> I've had good luck with final cut express and MPEG streamclip - converting the raw h.264 files to the AIC codec [ProRes422 is only available if you have Final Cut Pro] then importing those into FCE to edit. More control than iMovie. |
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Grant Gartland, Photographer, Assistant
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Bloomington | MN | USA | Posted: 12:43 AM on 12.10.09 |
->> As someone who started in video and then moved to stills (kind of) and is now watching them converge. I would say that you need to look at where you want to go with video:
Are you just going to use it occasionally, and don't have very high expectations for what you are going to put out? OR Are you going to start making this a major part of what you do, and as such choose to do it at a level equal to your dedication?
If your answer is yes to the first, then iMove is your answer. It will do somethings with relative ease, but is not made to do much more. If your answer is yes to the second, then use Final Cut Pro/Express. It gives you the full compliment of tools needed to edit and produce quality video.
I would say in SAT terms: iMovie : Paint.net :: Final Cut Pro/Express : Photoshop. |
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 1:26 AM on 12.10.09 |
| ->> thanks Nick :) |
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Mike Doran, Photographer
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Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 2:14 AM on 12.10.09 |
| ->> Thanks everyone I appreciate it. |
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Chris Pietsch, Photographer
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 3:15 PM on 12.10.09 |
| ->> Adobe Premier Elements is pretty good. Simple, too. |
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Myung Chun, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 3:32 PM on 12.10.09 |
| ->> The 60fps out of the camera is not slo mo. You have to conform it to a 24fps or 30 fps timebase using Cinema Tools or equivalent to get slo mo. |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 3:54 PM on 12.10.09 |
->> If you are on a Mac, iMovie is the easiest, cheapest (comes with it) option. Final Cut would be the next choice, however, there is also Adobe Premiere Elements which is selling on Adobe's site for like $80 and I have seen it at Costco or Sam's for $10 to $15 cheaper than that.
As for adding audio tracks to video....I use Garageband to for my audio tracks and it gives my pretty good control of things. Really, just starting out with video, I can not think of anything much easier than the iLife suite from Apple. I did some video stuff on my old PC and it was just a headache. |
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Khai Le, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 6:14 PM on 12.10.09 |
->> I found the video tutorials on Lynda.com very useful when putting together my first video on my 5D Mk II.
They offer one specifically for the 5D and Final Cut Pro and a comprehensive course on iMovie '09 (which is what I use). |
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Mitch Stringer, Photographer
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Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 9:53 PM on 12.14.09 |
| ->> I have downloaded my video shot with the 7D and it is in a .mov file type. iMovie does not seem to be recognizing that file type now that its been downloaded onto my Desktop. Any ideas? Do I have to convert the video out of .mov to another format to get it into iMovie? |
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Khai Le, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 10:20 PM on 12.14.09 |
->> Are you using the "import from camera" option? iMovie won't find your clips that way.
Go to-
File
Import
Movies
then select the folder your clips reside in. |
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Thomas Boyd, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 1:25 PM on 12.15.09 |
->> Here's a good resource for iMove and Final Cut as well as the Adobe products:
http://maccreate.com/ |
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Mitch Stringer, Photographer
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Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 8:18 PM on 12.16.09 |
->> khai
When i go to File/import/movies in iMovie I select the file with the movie clips but the button to import does not turn blue showing it is usable. I am not sure why its not recognizing the .mov files in the folder. |
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Shelley Cryan, Photographer
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New England | CT | USA | Posted: 11:15 AM on 12.17.09 |
->> Mitch,
I don't use the 7D but when I've had trouble with imovie recognizing movie files from other sources I've had success using Quicktime Player. Open the movie in question in Quicktime Player (Pro) and export it -- I've had success exporting in DV or mpeg-4 or mov or whatever. See what works for you. Kind of a pain to have an extra step, but it can work as a stopgap until you figure out a more streamlined workflow.
Shelley
www.shelleycryan.com |
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