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Shooting Voleyball
Scott Schild, Photographer
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Buffalo | NY | United States | Posted: 6:22 PM on 11.22.09 |
| ->> I was covering D1 college volleyball tonight and I stayed way up in the bleachers for most of the game, then at the end I sat in front of the bleachers on the floor. It was beyond the end line and about 4 feet behind the scorers table. The ref made it a point for me to be in a seat on not on the floor. I could have shot from the press table...witch is right next to the court. All I was looking for was a low position. What are the regulations here? |
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Joseph Tames, Photographer
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Lakeside | AZ | | Posted: 7:02 PM on 11.22.09 |
->> I shot the Cal-ASU match the other night.
Stood behind the fence at either end of the court and sat at the scorers table with no complaints.
A newspaper photog was using flash during warmups so someone was sent to tell us no flash but other than that no issues. |
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Jeff Hinds, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 7:07 PM on 11.22.09 |
->> Is there a rule for just no on-camera flash? Anyone know about strobes/arena lighting? Are there regulations for that or does it depend on the school/division/league?
Thx! |
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
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Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 7:15 PM on 11.22.09 |
->> I've found that it can vary from referee-crew to referee-crew. But my experience in this matter is in D2/D3, not sure if that matters either.
Generally, the crews will either tell you to not be on the floor around the court, or inform you and the coaches and players that you are "in play." |
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
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Waltham | MA | usa | Posted: 8:16 PM on 11.22.09 |
->> Scott,
I shoot DIV I college VB often and the only requirements I have been given by the officials is that I cannot be in the lane of the "staff" that rolls the ball to each other and I need to always be able to reach behind me and be able to touch the wall/bleachers/etc or whatever it may be behind me. Sometimes this is 20+ feet from the out of bounds line (endlines) sometimes a few feet (sidelines).
The school I cover has a press area above the court and works out perfectly for most shots, I just try and mix it up on the floor as well.
Jim |
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Brian Cripe, Photographer, Assistant
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East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 8:36 PM on 11.22.09 |
->> I shoot at a D1 school and the requirements vary depending on the crew - sometimes I've been told I need to be off the floor (on the sidelines that puts me about 4 feet outside the "out of bounds" line) and other crews have let me kneel on or behind the ref stand/net support. Depends on the officiating crew you have. My impression has been that their largest concern is has been the safety of the players.
As far as strobes go, they are legal in D1. There may be requirements about the angle relative to play, but I have seen them used at multiple D1 schools. I had a coach complain one game to the ref, and the coach was told that she'd have to deal with it because the NCAA allowed the use of arena strobes. On-camera flash is prohibited during competition at all NCAA D1 sports that I am aware of. |
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Ethan Magoc, Student/Intern
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Erie | PA | United States | Posted: 12:00 AM on 11.23.09 |
->> I once had a ref literally stop a match (DII) and tell me to back up, and I was at least 10 feet from the out of bounds line--about the same as Jim's reach rule it sounds. Kind of embarrassing and definitely annoying, considering I had been in that spot through a whole set before she apparently decided I was too close. The SID couldn't believe it either when I spoke with them afterward.
It really does vary. |
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Russ Isabella, Photographer
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Salt Lake City | UT | USA | Posted: 1:01 AM on 11.23.09 |
| ->> "It varies" has been my experience as well. Best to get there early and inquire about the ground rules. |
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Peter Buehner, Photographer
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Orono | ME | USA | Posted: 6:44 AM on 11.23.09 |
->> I shoot all the NCAA sports including a season of volleyball last year. One thing I have learned is that each official has their idea of what is acceptable. I used strobes for several games last year then suddenly was told that they werent allowed. I have spent many field hockey games behind the goal only to have an official tell me that I cannot.
My practice now (even if it is the 50th time) is to approach the officials before every game to say hi and to then ask what their policy is regarding (whatever).
Now I know that it is the NCAA or the school setting policy but asking an official what "their" policy is has never been a question I have regretted.
After a couple of years, you have a relationship with the officials and it becomes a friendly working relationship. Just what I want when working for pennies.
good luck
FWIW- for volleyball I was allowed on the sides behind the ball rolling lane but not allowed on the ends (floor level). |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 9:35 AM on 11.23.09 |
->> There is an allowance in the NCAA rule book for use of off-camera strobes. The specification for college volleyball is more stringent than the requirements for college basketball. Read the rule book and you should find it.
In addition, there's a rule about having the pursuit area between the 10 foot lines clear of people. However, when the rule was established it went off to infinity. Our conference has determined that if we are against the bleachers with our backs, then that's far enough away from the court to within that area.
I don't know what the rules are outside the pursuit area because I don't sit on the floor except in that area. |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 9:52 AM on 11.23.09 |
->> In shooting Arizona volleyball for eight years, I never had an official or a coach complain about the strobes. That goes for men's and women's basketball too. No official ever said anything to me about my position on the floor, although I shot a lot from the stands.
I moved two years ago to another job shooting mostly high school sports and there are some power hungry game officials around. |
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Scott Schild, Photographer
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Buffalo | NY | United States | Posted: 1:19 PM on 11.23.09 |
| ->> thanks everyone for your input, I guess I just have to ask every time. |
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Jon Eilts, Photographer
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College Station | TX | USA | Posted: 1:39 PM on 11.23.09 |
| ->> Once (last season) during a Big 12 match, the coach demanded that the strobes be turned off because we were firing them at times "which gave the other team a strategic advantage." Well, dont know if we had to or not, but the SID asked us to shut them off so we just obliged. Then he came in this season and demanded they be shut off (both instances mid match) because he now has a player that has Epilepsy...but said nothing about the flashing ribbon board and arena video boards... |
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