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Oops. Newsweek's Palin Cover Shouldn't Be...
Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Brandon McKenney, Photographer
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Portland | ME | United States | Posted: 4:29 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> Seems like they haven't figured out if this was Brian's fault or his agency for re-using it.
But what I'm more interested in, is how Sarah Palin is calling this photo sexist? Considering she willfully consented and posed for this photo, I don't see how she can call it sexist. Just seems bass-ackwards to me. It wasn't sexist when it ran in Runner's World, but because it's on Newsweek it's now sexist?? |
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 4:59 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> All she knows how to do is contradict herself so this is another example - she just doesn't like Newsweek so now it's "sexist". Be interesting to see who screwed up and re-sold it when they weren't supposed to. |
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:11 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> what's wrong with being sexy? |
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James Nix, Photographer
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 5:36 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> How many photographers have agents? |
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
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Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 5:51 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> I think it is a great picture and she looks good in it. Personally I don't find her attractive, but she looks pretty damn good in those shorts! |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 6:19 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> "Meacham said. "We apply the same test to photographs of any public figure, male or female: does the image convey what we are saying?"
So what is it they are saying? |
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Kevin Johnston, Photographer
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Oden | MI | USA | Posted: 7:12 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> Since no one knows anything it must have been an orphaned work so they just used it. |
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Brandon McKenney, Photographer
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Portland | ME | United States | Posted: 8:23 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> Well I'm "contacts" with Brian Adams (the photographer in question) on Flickr, and have been a fan of his work for a little over a year now. He does some great portraiture work up there in Alaska. Anyways, he posted this on his blog back on the 15th.
"This morning, I found out from my good friend Kelly Price of Rapport that a photo of Sarah Palin from a shoot I did for Runners World is being used for the cover of Newsweek. The cover was posted on the Newsweek website today, but I can't wait to hold an actual copy. Good morning! "
(http://brianadamsphotography.blogspot.com/)
From that I'd infer, though I could be completely wrong, that this was an error either on his agency's behalf, or it's a misunderstanding between all parties involved. It sounds like the photo was extended to Newsweek by someone other than him directly.
James...I think quite a few photographers (who specialize in fine art or portraits) have agents or agencies that represent them. |
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Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern
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Forest | VA | United States | Posted: 8:53 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> Jeff, here's the text that accompanies the photo on the cover of Newsweek: "How Do You Solve A Problem Like Sarah? She’s bad news for the GOP-and for everybody else too."
Regardless of whether or not Newsweek should have used the photo, at this point any publicity is good publicity. Controversy almost always increases readership. |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 9:14 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> Luke, I understand what their opinion is. I don't see how that photo conveys that message, unless their message is "we are trying to marginalize Palin."
I can't quite understand all the effort. she seems pretty marginal all by herself. |
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Karsten Moran, Photographer, Photo Editor
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New York | NY | United States of America | Posted: 9:43 PM on 11.18.09 |
| ->> If nothing else, this should underscore the importance of reading your contributors agreements / contracts... and staying on top of the clauses that dictate use and redistribution. |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 11:46 PM on 11.18.09 |
->> "So what is it they are saying?"
Bimbo. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 1:22 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> There are two things wrong here...
1. Whoever gave the photo to Newsweek misled Palin. She was no doubt told it would only be used for the running magazine, or at the very least that was her understanding. To shop it out for another publication - particularly when the context is going to be vastly different - is just bad business.
2. The photo setup the photographer (Mr. Adams?) concocted for the Runner's World shoot disrespects the American flag:
http://www.usflag.org/us.code36.html
It shouldn't be wadded up, draped over a chair and leaned on like it was a table cloth or some cheap bunting. It has meaning. It should be treated with respect.
Palin showed the same ignorance/disrespect back in 2008 for her calendar shoot. The month of July featured a picture of her wrapped in the flag like it was a snuggie. Unacceptable for anyone, but even moreso from someone who is shopping themselves around as a "true patriot".
Yes, it matters. |
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Nic Coury, Photographer
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Monterey | CA | | Posted: 4:10 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> I agree with David.
Regardless of what opinions are of the subject and what he/she is doing in said photo may be privy to scrutinism, it does matter. Whoever gave the photo to Newsweek should be at fault. That is the issue.
The flag thing isn't something I even considered when I first looked at the cover, bit being an Eagle Scout in the BSA, the flag should be treated with respect, any countries' flags at that.
I wouldn't say Palin was misled, per say, but rather she should be mad if she thought, by contract, that photo only be used for Runner's World.
It will interesting to see what comes of this... |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 9:50 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> "...if she thought..."
A big "if" in general. |
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Preston Mack, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 10:15 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> The frame Newsweek chose was a a striking portrait.
What photo editor would want to run a standard, guarded political portrait of someone when they can run something different?
If Sarah doesn't want any photos of herself in shorts, she should never have posed in shorts. That is why most celebs and politicans are very careful about who and what they pose with.
And if she thought that the photo would ONLY appear in Runner's World, she is extremely NAIVE. |
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Brandon McKenney, Photographer
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Portland | ME | United States | Posted: 10:15 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> I'm surprised no one's made a pun about the possibility of her RUNNING the country.
Ha..Ha..Ha..
David, good point on the flag. I didn't even think of that when viewing the photos. I won't get into personal views of flag conduct on here, but you're right that for someone who just the other day said she'd like to continue to be prominent in national politics, she should've known better to be posed with the flag like that.
Then again, we're talking about someone who seems to need to re-take a high school civics class to understand the very basics of how our government operates. |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 11:11 AM on 11.19.09 |
->> Jim,
"bimbo". That would work.
Props to Nic for using "scrutinism" in a post. I've never heard it before. |
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Nic Coury, Photographer
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Monterey | CA | | Posted: 1:42 PM on 11.19.09 |
->> Jeff,
Speling iz opshunal.
I wrote it late at night. What I meant was privy to being scrutinized... |
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Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern
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Forest | VA | United States | Posted: 8:16 PM on 11.19.09 |
| ->> The flag in the photo bothers me too. I'm also bothered when sweaty athletes wrap themselves in it after olympic events like its a towel. Sure it makes for good pictures, but c'mon! |
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Miles Vance, Photographer
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Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 8:28 PM on 11.19.09 |
->> I heard a clip on the radio today of a Newsweek bigwig explaining the choice of the Palin photo. He said that since the biggest questions about Palin center on her gravitas (or lack thereof), they chose a photo that would fit their story.
The problem here is that Newsweek's photo choice does nothing to explain whether Palin does or does not have gravitas - it was, after all, a shot for a running magazine and at least relatively appropriate for that format - what Newsweek has shown, however, is its opinion that she does not.
Further, if that's Newsweek's opinion, and if its policy on possible presidential candidates is to photographically portray the biggest questions/concerns about them, then why wasn't there a cover shot in 1993 of Bill Clinton staring at some woman's breasts? Certainly one of the biggest questions about Clinton prior to his election was about his roving eye as Arkansas governor, so why the double standard?
Whether you like Palin or not -- I really don't care much about her either way; she seems nice enough but I'm not convinced she's ready to run the country -- I think it's pretty obvious that this was not a fair treatment of her for a cover shot. |
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Mike Janes, Photographer
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Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 8:33 PM on 11.19.09 |
| ->> Seriously - inappropriate three times over? Anyone want to man up and say why since she thinks the photo is fine for one magazine but says it's sexist for another that she has a history with and doesn't like? Isn't that the definition of contradicting yourself? |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 8:51 PM on 11.19.09 |
| ->> I guess Newsweek has chosen to be editorial (opinion type) rather than a news magazine. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 8:58 PM on 11.19.09 |
->> Palin got off easy: She could have been McCain...
http://tinyurl.com/yfxfbv3
Remember this? |
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 9:22 PM on 11.19.09 |
| ->> Like the singer Brian Adams sang: "Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na, cuts like a knife" |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 10:02 PM on 11.19.09 |
->> "Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na, cuts like a knife"
Or even, "na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-hey-hey-hey good bye" |
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Ray Anderson, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 8:14 AM on 11.20.09 |
->> Yo have to check the first part of this video out I almost fell over laughing after watching the FOX video of a Cuban hospital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-R6FnwgM08 |
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Jeannette Merten, Photographer
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Oshkosh | WI | USA | Posted: 8:42 AM on 11.20.09 |
->> Media persuasiveness- I don't see how that cover image itself changes much of anything in opinions, error or not. Either you continue to hate her or love her. If anything, it got people talking again and will strengthen her mission. Beauty (can't deny) and brains (debatable to some-but how many of YOU have been elected to run a State and been asked to run for vice-president)? The combination can be powerhouse. Wearing shorts, tight or baggy, can't see what the big deal is no matter who it is. I see it as she enjoys working out and being fit.
It is the Headliner caption that grabs the attention, "problem?". |
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David Butler II, Photographer
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Somers | CT | USA | Posted: 9:54 AM on 11.20.09 |
->> It seems to me that if an agreement was made to embargo the image for one year than the image should not have been used for one year! Since it was used before the one year embargo than I would blame the photographer; the buck has to stop somewhere. No wonder photographers are subjected to crazy contracts that want to take over our work and have us indemnify everyone under the sun.
The disrespect shown in this thread to Sarah Palin is really something else… quite embarrassing I would say. |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 12:01 PM on 11.20.09 |
->> Sarah Palin spent 68 days as the nominee for vice president on a ticket that lost an election more than 370 days ago.
Love her or hate her, there is absolutely no reason for Sarah Palin to be the dominant news story at a time when we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the upcoming trial of the 911 planners, a one trillion dollar health care bill, possible transfer of Guantanamo detainees to prisons in the United States, and $199 Black Friday HDTV's to discuss. |
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