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Tribune Co. To Use Little AP Content Next Week
John Strohsacker, Photographer
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Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 6:52 PM on 11.03.09 |
->> "Tribune Co., owner of The Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times and several other news outlets, will not use most Associated Press content next week to test whether the financially struggling company can do without it, according to a story on the Chicago Tribune's Web site"
more...
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_conten... |
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Mike Anzaldi, Photographer
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Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 7:36 PM on 11.03.09 |
| ->> AP is fine. Let's hope the freelance budget is not on the chopping block! |
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Michael Muszynski, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 9:25 PM on 11.03.09 |
| ->> I think this is actually a good thing. Hopefully this will increase the focus on local content. Isn't that the bread and butter of the local newspaper? |
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Brian Dowling, Photographer
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Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 3:14 AM on 11.04.09 |
| ->> I never understood how a paper can send three photographers to an NFL game and still use 20 wire photos on their website and in their paper. Trim some of that fat. |
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
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McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 10:08 AM on 11.04.09 |
->> "Trim some of that fat."
To some higher-ups that would mean firing two photographers... |
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Michael Durisseau, Photographer, Assistant
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Santa Fe/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 11.04.09 |
->> "To some higher-ups that would mean firing two photographers..."
Yeah, never did understand that...I liken that to mowing your lawn from underneath... |
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Dave Miller, Photographer
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Darlington | PA | | Posted: 10:18 AM on 11.04.09 |
| ->> Freelance budget on the chopping block? It was chopped in my area a while ago. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 10:38 AM on 11.04.09 |
->> The AP situation is far more complicated than a simple choice between using staff versus using wire. The AP is not a pure profit play like Getty or Corbis. AP is a "cooperative". It is owned by it's member media outlets. The AP board is made up of newspaper and media publishers. Sam Zell is a part of the board that made the decisions he's complaining about:
http://www.ap.org/pages/about/board.html
This little factoid should have been mentioned in the article if someone was doing a thorough job of covering the issue.
Some of the same people that brought you the newspaper collapse helped expedite it in their role as AP board members. By allowing large, non-member Internet sites like Yahoo and Google access to AP content in a more-or-less unlimited manner, member web sites lose out big time. Think of how much traffic newspaper sites would get if you couldn't get AP Sports stories, photos and scores from Yahoo and instead had to go to your local AP affiliate. Sure Google and Yahoo pay a pretty hefty rate for access, but none of that revenue ends up back at the newspaper. It sure hasn't kept rates down.
The people on the board made those decisions...the same people running your newspapers. If the AP rates are high or if they give away content to non-members, it's because the newspaper bosses agreed to it. |
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John Strohsacker, Photographer
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
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San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 8:21 PM on 11.04.09 |
->> David,
Yahoo doesn't simply suck-up AP content for free. In fact it is the AP's largest single client.
--Mark |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 9:21 PM on 11.04.09 |
->> Mark,
That's why I said:
"Sure Google and Yahoo pay a pretty hefty rate for access, but none of that revenue ends up back at the newspaper." |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 7:41 PM on 11.05.09 |
->> David, arguably that revenue keeps the overhead lower than it would be otherwise.
However, if I was a Board member, I'd really be questioning whether the rate charged Google and Yahoo was fair. If I was a AP Board member,I'd be agitating and arguing that websites that consume and do not contribute pay significantly more - and I mean a LOT more. |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 8:52 PM on 11.05.09 |
->> Cooperative, huh. To hear my boss tell it, that cooperative is one of his biggest line items of the annual budget and much thought has gone into trimming or eliminating it.
From my viewpoint, papers like the LA Times, Chicago Tribune, etc., should have more local content than they know what to do with. Yet I pick up those papers and often the front pages have little or no local copy or photos on them. |
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Mike Anzaldi, Photographer
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Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 8:59 PM on 11.05.09 |
->> i'd respectfully argue that point jeff.
i skim the trib daily and aside from the nation or world pages, it's mostly local. front page especially. |
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Scott Strazzante, Photographer
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Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 10:44 PM on 11.05.09 |
->> Jeff, the Chicago Tribune is so local now that we no longer have a foreign desk, which is now handled by the LA Times.
Also, our sports section has been renamed "Chicago Sports".
Using today's paper as an example.
The front page has 2 of 2 stories are local.
Page 2- 1 local column.
Page 3- 3 of 3 local stories.
Page 4- 2 national Election stories written by Tribune Co. writers.
Page 5- full page ad.
Page 6- 2 of 2 stories local.
Page 7- 3 of 3 stories local.
Page 8- 2 of 2 stories local.
Page 9- 2 of 2 stories local.
Page 10- full page ad.
Page 11- 2 of 2 stories local.
Page 12- 1 of 1 story local.
Page 13- jump of local front page story.
Page 14- 2 of 2 stories local.
Page 15- 1 of 1 story local.
Page 16- full page ad.
Page 17- jump of local front page story.
Page 18 to 23- Nation & World pages- 10 stories by Tribune Co. writers
Page 24- local editorial page
Page 25- national commentary page- Tribune Co. columnists
Page 26- full page ad. |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 12:04 AM on 11.06.09 |
| ->> guys, thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear about the changes. |
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